On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 12:49:17AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
> > Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream changes
> > it beg the question if now would not be the time to stop supporting
> > booting in legacy bios mode and move to uefi only supported boot which
> > has been available on any common intel based x86 platform since atleast
> > 2005.
> 
> No, it would not.
> 
> It would mean desupporting a wide range of existing hardware and some VM 
> environments (even with QEMU/KVM, I found the SeaBIOS legacy BIOS to be much 
> less quirky than the OVMF UEFI implementation, and other VM environments 
> might not support UEFI at all, including older QEMU versions that may still 
> be in use as hosts for modern Fedora guests). And for what gain?

Also SeaBIOS boot is much faster than OVMF, and that matters in many
cases (libguestfs for one).

Rich.

> I do not think switching from GRUB-EFI to systemd-boot as you propose would 
> be of any benefit for UEFI users. (It would actually mean fewer features for 
> no tangible benefit.) Hence, we are dealing with GRUB in both enviroments. 
> So I do not see the maintenance burden of continued BIOS support, also 
> considering that, in my experience, the environment that keeps causing 
> problems is actually UEFI, not BIOS.
> 
> > This post is just to gather feed back why Fedora should still continue
> > to support legacy BIOS boot as opposed to stop supporting it and
> > potentially drop grub2 and use sd-boot instead.
> 
> Fedora should still continue to support legacy BIOS boot.
> 
>         Kevin Kofler
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