On Di, 05.04.22 17:38, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote:

> When users have a suboptimal experience by default, it makes Fedora
> look bad. We can't have security concerns overriding all other
> concerns. But it's really pernicious to simultaneously say security is
> important, but we're also not going to sign proprietary drivers. This
> highly incentivizes the user to disable Secure Boot because that's so
> much easier than users signing kernel modules and enrolling keys with
> the firmware, and therefore makes the user *less safe*.

Let me stress one thing though: Fedora *has* *no* working SecureBoot
implementation. The initrd is not authenticated. It has no signatures,
nothing.

By disabling SecureBoot you effectively lose exactly nothing in terms
of security right now.

What good is a trusted boot loader or kernel if it then goes on
loading an initrd that is not authenticated, super easy to modify (I
mean, seriously, any idiot script kiddie can unpack a cpio, add some
shell script and pack it up again, replacing the original one) – and
it's the component that actually reads your FDE LUKS password.

I mean, let's not pretend unsigned drivers were a big issue for
security right now. They are now, we have much much much wider gaping
holes in our stack.

Lennart

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Lennart Poettering, Berlin
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