On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 03:05:32PM +0200, Ralf Corsépius wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 28.06.22 um 14:51 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek:
> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 02:41:42PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> 
> > > > It certainly is not true that the feedback was not considered by FESCo:
> > > > there was a long discussion on IRC, and FESCo members also participated 
> > > > in
> > > > the mailing list thread.
> > > 
> > > Yet, the outcome is diametrically opposed to the mailing list consensus.
> > 
> > I don't think it makes sense to restart the discussion here. I disagree
> 
> And I disagree with you.

OK.

> This decision is such kind of harmful to Fedora, this decision should be
> reverted. This decision communicates the attitude of FESCO not caring about
> security, maintainablity and further related topics.
> 
> > Personally, I see a lot of value in having Java packaged
> > for Fedora, and use it for my stuff.
> 
> So do I, but this doesn't invalidate the the thought of "bundling" and
> "static linkage" being a prime security risk.

We can treat this as an experiment. The hope is that Java upstream is
big enough to be able to release updates for any CVEs in a timely manner,
and that the RHEL/Fedora maintainers are able to provide updates in a timely
manner. If it turns out this is not the case, we can unbundle again.

(Pfff, people are so angry about this… I would prefer to unbundle anything
too. But sometimes a big upstream is just too big to fight on every front.)

Zbyszek
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