Hi Peter,

Peter Robinson <pbrobin...@gmail.com> writes:

> On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 11:20 AM Dan Čermák
> <dan.cer...@cgc-instruments.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ben Cotton <bcot...@redhat.com> writes:
>>
>> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/IoTSimplifiedInstaller
>> >
>> > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
>> > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
>> > community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved
>> > by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee.
>> >
>> >
>> > == Summary ==
>> > Offer Fedora IoT users a new method to create and deploy customized
>> > Fedora IoT disk images using a new installer called Simplified
>> > Installer.
>> >
>> > == Owner ==
>> > * Name: [[User:runcom| Antonio Murdaca]], [[User:pwhalen| Paul Whalen]]
>> > * Email: amurd...@redhat.com, pwha...@fedoraproject.org
>> >
>> >
>> > == Detailed Description ==
>> > The Fedora IoT Simplified Installer will use coreos-installer to write
>> > an OStree raw image straight to a disk specified in a kernel argument,
>> > without the need for a kickstart or user interaction. This type of
>> > installation is ideal for devices connected at the edge where
>> > connectivity can be slow or intermittent. It offers the ability to
>> > configure the system via osbuild itself, FDO and Ignition.
>> >
>> > == Feedback ==
>> >
>> >
>> > == Benefit to Fedora ==
>> > The addition of the Fedora IoT Simplified Installer will benefit IoT
>> > users by allowing them to create customized disk images for use on
>> > their edge devices. This feature is already available downstream,
>> > adding it to Fedora will once again bring Fedora back to the true
>> > upstream of RHEL for edge and allows testing and adoption of new
>> > functionality like FIDO Device Onboarding.
>> >
>> > == Scope ==
>> > * Proposal owners:
>> > ** Test building Fedora IoT Simplified Installer with `osbuild-composer`
>> > ** Update Fedora IoT documentation with usage instructions.
>> >
>> > * Other developers:
>> >
>> > * Release engineering:
>> > * Policies and guidelines: N/A (not needed for this Change)
>> >
>> > * Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change)
>> > * Alignment with Objectives:
>> >
>> >
>> > == Upgrade/compatibility impact ==
>> > * Not applicable to this change.
>> >
>> > == How To Test ==
>> > Testable by installing `osbuild-composer` in Fedora 38 and using the
>> > command line tool or the Cockpit web interface to create a Fedora IoT
>> > Simplified Installer iso to deploy a UEFI enabled edge device.
>> >
>> >
>> > == User Experience ==
>> > This change will greatly enhance the Fedora IoT user experience by
>> > allowing users to utilize `osbuild-composer` and blueprints to create
>> > customized Fedora IoT deployments and leverage new features like FIDO
>> > Device Onboarding for secure zero touch device onboarding of edge
>> > devices as well as Ignition to configure the device once it starts.
>>
>> Will it still be possible to use something simple like zezere /
>> provision.fedoraproject.org to deploy your ssh keys? I find that to be
>> one of the major advantage of Fedora IoT over all the other images for
>> the Raspberry Pi out there, as I can easily get the IP of my newly
>> setup device and push my ssh keys from FAS there without ever having to
>> bother with ignition.
>
> Yes, we're looking to revitalize zezere too but I think that will more
> likely be a F-39 feature at this stage.

Thanks for keeping this on the table!

I don't want to be demanding here, but I would personally prefer if
zezere stayed also for the interim period, but I completely understand
if that has a low priority.


Cheers,

Dan
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