> Am 21.05.2023 um 16:06 schrieb Neal Gompa <ngomp...@gmail.com>: > > On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 9:58 AM Peter Boy <p...@uni-bremen.de> wrote: >> >> >> >> Am 21.05.2023 um 15:36 schrieb Neal Gompa <ngomp...@gmail.com>: >> >> Hey all, >> >> I was chatting with Marcin Juszkiewicz about U-Boot on ARM wrt its >> "generic UEFI boot" feature where it can execute UEFI applications. We >> use this capability for Fedora on ARM platforms to go from the utterly >> barebones and weird initialization processes for various boards to a >> UEFI-like environment so we can boot Fedora somewhat normally. >> >> It occurred to me during that conversation that it might be possible >> to use this to simplify what we need to care about for x86 too. Last >> year, the Red Hat Bootloader team wanted to start a deprecation >> process for BIOS[1] and the Fedora Cloud WG has been interested in it >> for longer[2]. >> >> At least from the Cloud WG side, it's been determined that completely >> removing BIOS support is functionally impossible for the next few >> years because of AWS and smaller cloud providers not universally >> supporting UEFI (and we are still trying to convince them to change >> their minds on this...). And I still have plenty of hardware with >> broken UEFI implementations that require CSM boot to support Linux. >> >> But could we use U-Boot to fill in this gap so these systems still >> work? We'd then treat x86 like ARM (if no UEFI, use U-Boot UEFI). >> >> >> [1]: >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/K5YKCQU3YVCTMSBHLP4AOQWIE3AHWCKC/ >> [2]: https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/345 >> >> >> >> Would be interesting to have a proof of concept, e.g. a server VM image. >> >> However, when I look at the ARM SBC UEFI, some improvement would be >> desirable. At the moment, there is only a crumpled UEFI image flying across >> the screen, without any intervention option (which is OK for SBC, but >> probably not for a „real“ server). >> > > U-Boot does have a UEFI shell, though for our purposes, it's not that > important. U-Boot would merely allow us to jump into an environment > that executes the boot manager EFI binary (grub2, rEFInd, sd-boot). > > If it's possible, it's something Fedora Cloud would probably adopt > pretty quickly.
I'm curios. I would like to grab it and try to create an experimental Server VM. -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy p...@fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST /UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
