I recall a number of years back a proposed gcc upgrade broke many builds.
This required most maintainers to log in and refactor their source code
against the new gcc (and new gcc options).

I hadn't logged into Fedora for years however I did do my due diligence and
rather quickly logged in and fixed any issues.

The recent move to remove inactive maintainers from the maintainers group
is something I fully agree with for reasons of security against the current
limitations of the maintainer privileges framework.

However, this latest move to orphan packages that don't have maintainers
seems rather clandestine as it's not related to security but rather a
byproduct of the point mentioned above. If security wasn't an issue in the
first place then we wouldn't be having this discussion.

I wonder what spectacle will ensue should we ever need to refactor the
source code again for extraneous reasons only to find a significant part of
the maintainer cohort needs to go through the proven maintainer process
again.




On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 at 07:09, Kevin Fenzi <ke...@scrye.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Today, 2023-11-18, we have removed inactive packagers
> from the packager group.
>
> This is in accordance with the FESCo policy on inactive packagers:
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Policy_for_inactive_packagers/
>
> If the removed user is 'main admin' for a package, this package
> will be orphaned. If there are co-maintainers for the package,
> one of them should take the role of 'main admin',
> by clicking "✋ Take" on
> `https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/<package>`".
>
> Otherwise any packager may take the package while it's orphaned.
> After 6 weeks, the package will be retired.
> After another 8 weeks, a new review is needed to unretire it.
> see
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Policy_for_orphan_and_retired_packages/
> for more details.
>
> More details available in
> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11621
>
> Packages that have been orphaned are:
>
> rpms/gtksourceview5
> rpms/python-typing-inspect
> rpms/xorg-x11-drv-qxl
> rpms/coin-or-lemon
> rpms/fish
> rpms/nvme-cli
> rpms/u2f-hidraw-policy
> rpms/virtme
> rpms/elementary-onboarding
> rpms/vala-language-server
> rpms/perl-MooseX-Role-Matcher
> rpms/perl-Net-Google-AuthSub
> rpms/drupal7-advanced_help
> rpms/drupal7-auto_nodetitle
> rpms/drupal7-calendar
> rpms/drupal7-ckeditor
> rpms/drupal7-date_ical
> rpms/drupal7-email
> rpms/drupal7-features
> rpms/drupal7-feeds
> rpms/drupal7-flexifilter
> rpms/drupal7-footnotes
> rpms/drupal7-google_analytics
> rpms/drupal7-honeypot
> rpms/drupal7-job_scheduler
> rpms/drupal7-mediawiki_api
> rpms/drupal7-module_filter
> rpms/drupal7-panels
> rpms/drupal7-pathauto
> rpms/drupal7-rules
> rpms/drupal7-site_map
> rpms/drupal7-strongarm
> rpms/drupal7-theme-adaptivetheme
> rpms/drupal7-token
> rpms/drupal7-views_bulk_operations
> rpms/drupal7-views_slideshow
> rpms/drupal7-webform
> rpms/drupal7-workbench
> rpms/drupal7-workbench_moderation
> rpms/drupal7-xmlsitemap
> rpms/python-ironicclient
> rpms/qtractor
> rpms/rtirq
> rpms/dropbear
> rpms/byzanz
> rpms/cairo
> rpms/golang-github-elithrar-simple-scrypt
> rpms/golang-github-kurin-blazer
> rpms/golang-github-minio
> rpms/golang-github-pkg-xattr
> rpms/golang-github-restic-chunker
> rpms/restic
> rpms/aspell-ar
> rpms/aspell-he
> rpms/bidiv
> rpms/hspell
> rpms/hunspell-ar
> rpms/python-pthreading
> rpms/taarich
> rpms/tex-fonts-hebrew
> rpms/golang-rsc-pdf
> rpms/wavbreaker
> rpms/python-timeunit
> rpms/python-vagrantpy
> rpms/streamtuner
> rpms/bird
> rpms/ovirt-guest-agent
> rpms/vsqlite++
> rpms/dovecot-fts-xapian
> rpms/VirtualGL
> rpms/python-autograd
> rpms/python-read-roi
> rpms/byobu
> rpms/kflickr
> rpms/nfacct
> rpms/perl-Audio-Beep
> rpms/perl-CDDB
> rpms/perl-Getopt-Simple
> rpms/perl-NetPacket-LLC
> rpms/perl-NetPacket-SpanningTree
> rpms/perl-Pod-Coverage-Moose
> rpms/perl-Proc-Simple
> rpms/perl-XML-Parser-Lite-Tree-XPath
> rpms/rust-atomic
> rpms/rust-binascii
> rpms/rust-cfb
> rpms/rust-email-encoding
> rpms/rust-infer
> rpms/rust-inlinable_string
> rpms/rust-multer
> rpms/rust-rmpv
> rpms/rust-serde_qs
> rpms/rust-totp-lite
> rpms/rust-ubyte
> container/glusterfs
> rpms/python-oslo-vmware
> rpms/perl-Hash-Diff
> rpms/perl-Test-Script-Run
> rpms/esc
> rpms/bash-completion-extras
> rpms/apiextractor
> rpms/appmenu-qt
> rpms/arora
> rpms/beefy-miracle-kde-theme
> rpms/bluedevil
> rpms/cagibi
> rpms/colord-kde
> rpms/constantine-kde-theme
> rpms/dogtail
> rpms/generatorrunner
> rpms/goddard-kde-theme
> rpms/herqq
> rpms/jovie
> rpms/kaccessible
> rpms/kde-plasma-ihatethecashew
> rpms/kio-ftps
> rpms/kmag
> rpms/kmousetool
> rpms/kmouth
> rpms/ktp-accounts-kcm
> rpms/ktp-approver
> rpms/ktp-auth-handler
> rpms/ktp-common-internals
> rpms/ktp-contact-list
> rpms/ktp-filetransfer-handler
> rpms/ktp-kded-integration-module
> rpms/ktp-send-file
> rpms/ktp-text-ui
> rpms/kvkbd
> rpms/laughlin-kde-theme
> rpms/leonidas-kde-theme
> rpms/libkcddb
> rpms/libkcompactdisc
> rpms/lovelock-kde-theme
> rpms/pairs
> rpms/plasma-widget-menubar
> rpms/polkit-kde
> rpms/prison
> rpms/pyside-tools
> rpms/python-pyside
> rpms/qt-at-spi
> rpms/qtsoap
> rpms/shiboken
> rpms/solar-kde-theme
> rpms/telepathy-qt
> rpms/verne-kde-theme
> rpms/gogoc
> rpms/lua-argparse
> rpms/ibutils
> rpms/keychecker
> rpms/mediawiki-SpecialInterwiki
> rpms/multitail
> rpms/supybot-koji
> rpms/trace-gui
> modules/X11-base
> modules/cloud-init
> modules/dhcp
> modules/networking-base
> modules/shared-userspace
> modules/storage-devices
> rpms/dictd
> rpms/ed
> rpms/libcap
> rpms/vim
> rpms/cutter
> rpms/groonga
> rpms/groonga-normalizer-mysql
> rpms/sentencepiece
> rpms/salt
> rpms/boinc-client
> rpms/glue-validator
> rpms/lcg-infosites
> rpms/nagios-plugins-bdii
> rpms/icaro
> rpms/legofy
> rpms/pg_view
> rpms/zeek
> rpms/gnome-video-arcade
> rpms/pygtksourceview
> rpms/python-etcd
> rpms/libldm
> rpms/golang-github-mattetti-filebuffer
> rpms/golang-github-vividcortex-mysqlerr
> rpms/golang-xorm
> rpms/fbf-mukti-fonts
> rpms/uniol-fonts
> rpms/pg_auto_failover
> rpms/fontopia
> rpms/gball
> rpms/gnudos
> rpms/gosnake
> rpms/layla-fonts
> rpms/shaman
> rpms/tcalc
> rpms/beefy-miracle-backgrounds
> rpms/constantine-backgrounds
> rpms/desktop-backgrounds
> rpms/echo-artist
> rpms/f21-backgrounds
> rpms/f22-backgrounds
> rpms/gears-backgrounds
> rpms/goddard-backgrounds
> rpms/gtk-murrine-engine
> rpms/heisenbug-backgrounds
> rpms/laughlin-backgrounds
> rpms/leonidas-backgrounds
> rpms/libass
> rpms/libmatroska
> rpms/lovelock-backgrounds
> rpms/neon-backgrounds
> rpms/notification-daemon-engine-nodoka
> rpms/ruby-icon-artist
> rpms/schroedinger-cat-backgrounds
> rpms/solar-backgrounds
> rpms/spherical-cow-backgrounds
> rpms/verne-backgrounds
> rpms/retrace-client
> rpms/dosbox-staging
> rpms/xtrkcad
> rpms/fwknop
> rpms/phplogcon
> rpms/cpptoml
> rpms/simple-mail
> rpms/golang-github-bruth-assert
> rpms/golang-github-fatih-set
> rpms/golang-github-tg-gosortmap
> rpms/golang-github-xlab-handysort
> rpms/golang-vbom-util
> rpms/bugyou
> rpms/bugyou_plugins
> rpms/python-fedimg
> rpms/python-fmn-rules
> rpms/python-fmn-web
> rpms/python-libpagure
> rpms/python-tahrir
> rpms/python-tahrir-api
> rpms/rust-erased-serde
> rpms/rust-netmap_sys
> rpms/rust-pcap
> rpms/rust-pnet_base
> rpms/rust-pnet_sys
> rpms/copr-messaging
> rpms/mdk
> rpms/ndisc6
> rpms/heat-cfntools
> rpms/fedwatch
> rpms/rubygem-whiskey_disk
> rpms/kstart
> rpms/perl-Authen-Krb5
> rpms/perl-Catalyst-Model-LDAP
> rpms/perl-Catalyst-Plugin-StackTrace
> rpms/perl-Catalyst-View-JSON
> rpms/perl-HTML-Prototype
> rpms/perl-Task-Weaken
> rpms/remctl
> rpms/createrepo_c
> rpms/librepo
> rpms/ibus-bogo
> rpms/ibus-unikey
> rpms/puzzle-master
> rpms/emacs-evil
> rpms/emacs-goto-chg
> rpms/emacs-undo-tree
> rpms/ghc-crypto-cipher-types
> rpms/jsoncpp
> rpms/perl-Net-Lite-FTP
> rpms/rachota
> container/container-engine
> container/docker
> container/etcd
> container/flannel
> rpms/ghc-X11-xft
>
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