On 2024-02-01 07:40, Sérgio Basto wrote:
I have an obvious answer is when the authors decide, in this case Xorg,
when Xorg decides that it will stop supporting X11, like happened to
Python2 or PHP5 and 7 or Gnome
In fact, it is something I've been thinking about, IMHO, downstream
shouldn't decide when software is deprecated or not like KDE and Red
HAt did , it's weird to me [1], although in RHEL we could have the
packages via EPEL, I think, and RHEL 10 is only in a year and a half
A lot of the people involved at different parts of the stack are just
the same people wearing different hats.
Wayland and X.org are both part of freedesktop. Whatever maintenance is
still happening on X.org is mostly being done by people who primarily
work on Wayland. There isn't some kind of holy war going on between The
Wayland Developers who want to kill X.org, and The X.org Developers who
believe it is great and want to keep it. They're nearly all the same
people, and they all want X.org to die. AFAIK there isn't anybody who is
actually clamoring to *do the work of maintaining X.org upstream*. There
are people who don't want it to die because Wayland doesn't yet have the
features they need or the NVIDIA proprietary driver doesn't work well on
Wayland or whatever, but AFAIK, none of those people is actually
volunteering to maintain X.org long-term. If you look through
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/commits/master you will
see the majority of commits are from people who also work on Wayland
(and most of the commits are actually to Xwayland).
A lot of the same people who are the graphics stack maintainers for
freedesktop.org are *also* involved in distribution efforts to move to
Wayland. So it's not as simple as "distributions making the decisions
instead of upstream". AFAIK, most of the upstream folks dearly *want*
distributions to move off of X.org and onto Wayland, but they feel kind
of obliged to continue minimal maintenance of X.org upstream until this
move is further along.
Apologies if any of that is inaccurate, and I'm sure folks will correct
me if so.
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