On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 11:53:03AM GMT, Michel Lind wrote: > On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 03:03:33PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 03:48:40PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > For years, it was possible to send email using a fedoraproject.org > > > address. > > > > > > It seems that various ISP now refuse to send mail from an alias outside > > > of their authority > > > > > > Ex: Orange French ISP now only allows @orange.fr address > > > linked to the authenticated account > > > > > > They suggest to use fedora project SMTP server > > > which doesn't exist > > > > > > For now, workaround exists (switching to another SMTP server) > > > but in the future more providers will probably apply same constraint
yeah, sadly over time the email aliases are becoming less and less useful. > > Even if you use a different server, Fedora publishes SPF records, so if > > you're sending from a server that's not in SPF, your mail is more likely > > to be classified as spam. Note that the SPF record for fedoraproject is: fedoraproject.org descriptive text "v=spf1 a a:mailers.fedoraproject.org ip4:38.145.60.11 ip4:38.145.60.12 ?all" which has ?all at the end, which is _supposed_ to mean "Interpreted as None / No policy" So, providers should not care about this, but of course some providers probibly ignore all that and treat any spf record as deny all. > @centosproject.org is set up similarly - and I observed that sending > emails out with my own SMTP, with the from changed to my CentOS alias, > results in the mail being rejected by... Red Hat's server. To my knowledge, CentOS never provided aliases for maintainers. Things from @centos.org should normally be coming from official/expected IP's and allowed. I could of course be wrong... kevin
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