On Fri, 2025-07-18 at 13:47 +0200, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > * Simo Sorce [17/07/2025 19:24] : > > > > Can we talk about what the risk of that is? > > Are we talking 30%, 3%, 0.3% 0.003% .. ? > > At Flock 2024, Tom Calloway explained to a group of us that if you start > typing in the code of Doom in an AI-assisted editor, the editor will > happily paste in the rest of the code, comments included. > > Doom's code is so optimised that it has been studied over and over again > and been cited in a number of publications so that AIs have been > over-trained on it. Granted, this is a special case but I suspect this > is an issue we are going to run into, sooner or later.
I am not sure how this is relevant unless you are trying to create a Doom clone and start from the same code base? > > Fedora will expeditiously remove the code > > This sounds simpler than I suspect it will be in practice. Nothing is simple in copyright if you try hard to find edge cases. We already may have code that has been copied in an unauthorized way and may be requested to remove, I am honestly not sure why we should treat AI assisted code writing differently. As many here already noted it does not matter how you ended copying it ,consciously, unconsciously, etc.. (except perhaps for establishing damages after a lot cause in court), so unless AI increases significantly the actual chances of getting in trouble I think this is just a reaction to fear or even revulsion to the tool, more than an actual assessment of risk and appropriate response planning. > > or add attribution as the > > author prefers. > > This assumes that the author will agree that the code remain licensed > as-is. They can ask for removal, just like for any code that may have been copied without correct attribution/license/whatever, regardless of whether the AI generated it or a human "stole" it. Simo, -- Simo Sorce Distinguished Engineer RHEL Crypto Team Red Hat, Inc -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
