On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:35:27 +0100
"Bryn M. Reeves" <b...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 07/28/2011 01:22 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote:
> > On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:00:28 +0100
> > "Bryn M. Reeves" <b...@redhat.com> wrote:
> > It is nevertheless an *added* avenue to do some phishing. And for
> > what benefit?
> 
> No, it's not; at the very most it's making something very slightly
> less noticeable but even that is a weak and flawed argument.

It is one additional avenue. Hence "added".
> 
> If your security relies on spotting that a malicious user has placed
> a rogue binary in ~/bin you're already hosed.

My security does not rely on it, but my security does include looking
there if something funny is going on. Now I am suppose to look in
an additinal place, that was added quietly. Someone decided to change
where to look for executables in my $HOME. That is uncalled for.

> 
> > Adding a hidden directory to $PATH will cause people do filter it
> > out from their $PATH. This leads to more messy use environments,
> > not to cleaner ones as is the original purpose of this whole thing.
> > 
> > No, hidden directories should not be in $PATH. If somebody put that
> > in their standard, those folks should change their standard.
> > Standards can define things that are wrong, and this is one such
> > case.
> 
> I'm not especially attached to ~/.local/bin being in PATH (although I
> do happen to think the approach used by python for --user
> installations is an elegant solution).

This whole thread is about ~/.local/bin. I see it adding to the mess
found in $HOME, as opposed to cleaning things up. Shoving the mess
under a rug is not cleaning.
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