On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Matthew Garrett <mj...@srcf.ucam.org> wrote: > It's a common complaint that it's too difficult to get updates to > critpath packages through the update system at the moment. We've been > looking into trying to make that easier without just dropping the > critpath requirements, and one thing we looked at was whether the > requirement for positive karma from proventesters was a net benefit. > > Thankfully this is the kind of thing that we can actually generate > numbers for. Luke pulled some statistics which are available at > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2011-October/104084.html . > The relevant section here is the set of packages that have (a) > sufficient positive karma to be pushed, but (b) negative proventester > karma - that is, the packages where negative proventester karma > prevented a push. > > Straight off, we can see that these amount to 1-2% of all critpath > updates. It's simply not common for proventester to make a difference to > the outcome. If we look at the individual packages, things get even more > interesting. Many of the updates receive a mixture of proventester > karma, so even with the negative the push would still go ahead. As far > as I can tell: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.9-1.fc14 > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/system-setup-keyboard-0.8.6-2.fc14 > > are the only two updates where the proventester karma requirement would > have made a difference, out of 1942 critpath updates that made it to > stable. That doesn't seem like a great hit rate.
Well this looks like just a coincidence to me that the people finding issues where proventesters in this cases. > So, assuming I'm not grossly misanalysing the data, it seems that we > could drop the proventester requirement from critical path updates with > a negligable change in the quality of the updates. Thoughts? I'd say go for it and I doubt there would be any quality change. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel