Dne 2.3.2012 13:19, Aleksandar Kurtakov napsal(a):
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From: "Matthias Runge"<mru...@matthias-runge.de>
To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"<devel@lists.fedoraproject.org>
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 2:05:07 PM
Subject: Re: Automating the NonResponsiveMaintainers policy
On 02/03/12 12:53, Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
I'm afraid we end up with more bureaucracy than we have now. I'm
not
against tracking some statistics, so you can look up who is active
and
probably will answer in few days, but I'd rather not use it for the
unresponsive process.
Marcela
I'm thinking about how to support Jóhann with a proven packager (or
two). Since it seems not wanted by Fesco, to give him the
corresponding
rights to commit his changes directly? This final target (all
services
are supported by systemd) seems to be clear to everyone.
This is a noble goal and I wish this finishes sooner. But attacking packagers
by threatening is not gaining any support for the efforts.
Most of us gained their commit rights by talking to the respective maintainers
getting them approve us as comaintainers, it's a lengthy process I agree. But
it's not that hard to ask for co-maintainership so one gets commit rights. I
wonder whether someone refused to give commit rights for someone wanting to add
systemd support in his package?
People should finally understand that by threatening and over-bureaucracy
nothing will improve. When someone wants to see a feature done he should get
his hands dirty in all aspects - do the changes, find the maintainer, talk to
them, get commit rights or get them to push changes, do builds if needed. We
ship a distribution so if someone do something but doesn't integrate with the
rest we have nothing. And integration is collaboration it's not something one
can enforce with bureacracy.
Alex,
Don't be so touchy please. The truth is somewhere in between. There are
maintainers who do not respond for whatever reason and there are others
who are solving reported issue in a minute. I don't believe that it was
meant to threaten anybody. You read the "Automating the
NonResponsiveMaintainers policy" as "remove the original maintainer" or
"punish him" but it might be very well read in opposite way, exactly as
you proposed. There is no need for drama.
Vit
Alex
Alex
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