On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Jesse Keating
<jkeat...@j2solutions.net> wrote:
> On 06/19/2012 04:32 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 19.06.2012 09:53, schrieb drago01:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Matej Cepl <mc...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 18/06/12 09:30, drago01 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This would just result into stagnation while the competition invents
>>>>> much better wheels and leave us behind.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Abstracting for the sake of discussion from the particular case of grub2
>>>> could you at least imagine new program which would be worse than the
>>>> program
>>>> it replaces?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sure. But a new program can as well be better then the one it replaces
>>> even if the other one has been in use for years. Not even trying to
>>> improve the old or replace it with something better that comes up
>>> means stagnation which is what I am objecting to.You have to make
>>> changes to go forward.
>>
>>
>> but it is NIT better
>> it is a config full of crap and script-code
>>
>> this is pervers - short time ago there was introduced
>> systemd saying "shell scripts are evil" and directly
>> after that we introduce a boot-loader with a configuration
>> where each init-script ever existed was nice compared against
>>
>> CIONFIGURATION != SHELL-SCRIPT
>>
>>
>>
>
> You seem to think we, the Fedora project, have any sort of sway as to how
> things get written in their various upstreams.  We don't, except for very
> few cases.  Our choices here with grub2 are
>
> A) continue using grub1 and continue working with diminishing resources to
> keep grub1 working in the new environments a boot loader will be needed in.
>
> B) consume what upstream gives us in the form of grub2.
>
> You seem to be advocating for option C) throw up your hands and yell "THIS
> IS UNACCEPTABLE", and then.... what?

D) Lilo

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