Le vendredi 11 janvier 2013 à 08:05 -0600, Chris Adams a écrit : > Once upon a time, Bill Nottingham <nott...@redhat.com> said: > > > > - <packagereq>ed</packagereq> > > I don't know how widely it is used, but ed is also part of POSIX/SUS.
based on my understanding, POSIX do not mandate them to be there by default, just to support them : http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/basedefs/V1_chap02.html so not installing them by default will not change much, given that we already do not support several command : http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/toc.html I see asa, cflow, cxref, delta, fort77, yacc who would make use fail at POSIX conformance, since none of them are installed by default ( and I just quickly looked at the list ). And while I agree the goal to be POSIX compliant is nice, as far as i know, we are not, so we do not claim to be. ( ie, people cannot and should not expect the system to have theses utilities by default ). So maybe a separate group ( and feature, since that's a rather lengthy task ) for them would be a start, and then packaging and adding the missing utilities would be the next step before claiming "we are compliant". A separate group would be better because : - this is easier to audit ( especially if the norm is updated ) - this doesn't force to install a compiler by default ( fort77 ) -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel