----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johan...@gmail.com>
> To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 10:04:29 AM
> Subject: Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop
> 
> On 01/27/2013 02:53 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> > = Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop =
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Cinnamon_as_Default_Desktop
> 
> 
> We should be moving away from having a default rather then switching
> it.

Yeah, I didn't know that people still feel like there is default - If one goes 
to http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora there is "Desktops: KDE, Xfce, GNOME, 
and others". Does it mean that KDE is the default as we listed it first :)?
Regarding "Cinnamon as Default Desktop" - how many active contributors do 
really take care of Cinnamon packaging? I don't think that anything that has 
less than 3-4 can even be considered. Last time I checked the only options that 
were satisfying such requirement were KDE and Gnome. I would be happy to be 
proven wrong and we gained 10+ contributors for all the various desktops we 
ship. 
Quantity really matters in this case.
 Let me give an example from my own Fedora experience as an IDE packager 
focused on Eclipse. Netbeans was packaged for Fedora and only 1 guy took care 
of it and I even helped for this to happen just for the sake of competition. It 
was a buzzword for one or two releases in the relevant groups, people started 
recommending it and etc. The problems started when the maintainer was not able 
to maintain it anymore for his own reasons - not only Netbeans IDE was orphaned 
and removed from the distro but various other packages were left in the wild as 
they started to use some of the underlying netbeans libraries and no one 
stepped in to pick it up and we still have leftovers in Fedora from this times 
in the form of people trying to keep what they started to use in a 
non-coordinated way - everyone keeps what he needs at the level he/she needs 
it. Allowing such thing to happen for something someone would call our 
"default" (as meaningless it is) desktop would be a disaster.

P.S. 
I've been KDE user for ~10 years but made the switch to Gnome 3 in Fedora 17 as 
it's workflow is clearly allowing me to concentrate easier!


Alexander Kurtakov

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