> From: Kevin Fenzi <ke...@scrye.com> > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Date: 05/13/2013 13:51 > Subject: Re: [Fedora-spins] Where are the remaining F19 spins? > Sent by: devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > On Mon, 13 May 2013 13:24:26 -0400 > john.flor...@dart.biz wrote: > > > > From: Dennis Gilmore <den...@ausil.us> > > > Perhaps the question we really need to ask is how should we deploy > > > and install Fedora, Which is not something we can change or solve > > > for f19 or probably even f20. An idea that comes to mind is to > > > have package selections and post install config tasks ship as > > > kickstart snippets with the DVD. we then use grub/syslinux to > > > present a menu to the users to have different frameworks that > > > resemble the spins the kickstart is fed to anaconda then at boot > > > time or anaconda gives you the option to select them. > > > > I think the Fedora Formulas that Kevin proposed are the ideal > > replacement for spins. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_formulas > > Sadly, I don't think so. > > They are cool and useful and worth persuing (If I can find some time > to), but I don't think they can completely replace spins. > > Some uses of spins that don't map well to formulas: > > * Security lab spin being used to examine compromised images. You want > your thing to be a read only medium. > > * Desktops browsing. You may well want to boot the LXDE spin and play > around with it and decide it's not for you and move on without > installing anything. Of course you could install, test and remove, > but some people prefer to decide up front. > > * Base thing to run formulas on. You need some desktop/install/media > whatever to run the formulas on, so you always need some way to do > that initial install. > > * Taking a live image and booting 20 lab machines so you can run a > class, then shut down and no changes were made to the machines. > > (There's probibly others). > > kevin
Those are good counter-examples, especially the first. The others though leave me less convinced given what I've been doing here for the last few years which is to take a customized Fedora Live spin with stateless Linux features enabled, plus puppet (considering switching to ansible), plus a little glue to make custom appliances where networked resources dictate the various roles those appliances play ranging from kiosks to firewalls. -- John Florian
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