On 07/18/2013 06:19 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Thu, 18.07.13 10:34, Vít Ondruch (vondr...@redhat.com) wrote:

Dne 18.7.2013 01:02, Lennart Poettering napsal(a):
So, maybe, instead of dropping the "Provides syslog" thing from
journald, maybe we should add an explicit "syslog-files" dependency (or
something named like that) and then make the classic syslog
implementations provide that and the packages which actually need
/var/log/messages pull that it?

Lennart


So why there are files in /var/log and there is not obvious package,
which creates them (unless you want to guess by name)? Shouldn't all
package, which creates log in /var/log have some virtual provide to
make it obvious? Why not do it properly/consistently?

So, you suggest using "Requires: /var/log/messages" and "Provides:
/var/log/messages" as indication for this, and the %ghost
/var/log/messages in the packages in question?

Sounds good to me! Matthew?

Lennart


But what is going to require /var/log/messages? Programs like logwatch and logrotate can operate on *any* file in /var/log (or elsewhere for that matter). They can be useful without /var/log/messages.

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