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On 07/22/2013 12:36 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 07/22/2013 04:34 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 12:08:32 -0400 Stephen Gallagher
>> <sgall...@redhat.com> wrote:
>> 
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>>> On 07/22/2013 11:58 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>>>> Our Fedora infrastructure team should be using Fedora it's
>>>> an disgrace to the community for them not doing so.
>> So, first off, as I think I have indicated many times: we already
>> do use Fedora in places where it makes sense to.
>> 
>> We don't exclusively use Fedora on all machines/instances,
>> because it doesn't make sense to.
>> 
>>> That's something else that this policy could potentially
>>> addresses, frankly. The reason our infrastructure team doesn't
>>> use Fedora is because upgrading critical infrastructure every
>>> six months is simply infeasible.
>> It's not only that. ;)
>> 
>> * Having to upgrade every 6months or a year. * Having to
>> redeploy/test all our applications on a new version every 6months
>> or a year. * Rate of updates is very high. We would need to
>> schedule lots more outages to keep up with kernel and glibc
>> updates for example. * Updates can break things/less tested than
>> RHEL updates (This one I think is much less the case than it used
>> to be, but still there). * Probibly some more things I'm not
>> thinking of now.
>> 
>> So, really, I can see us expanding use of Fedora in some areas,
>> but I don't know that we will ever get to "100% Fedora". In fact,
>> depending on how you figure that it's impossible. Things like
>> some of our storage or routers are not even able to run Fedora.
> 
> Is the above not just highlighting the fact that our release cycle
> is to short and instead of of our infrastructure team working
> towards changing that, they chose to workaround it instead by using
> another distribution...

They chose to use a _downstream_ distribution. RHEL *is* Fedora, it's
just a Fedora that's been hardened and held to a certain level of
ABI/API compatibility.

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