Am 11.09.2013 04:17, schrieb Ankur Sinha:
> On Wed, 2013-09-11 at 00:01 +0200, Alec Leamas wrote:
>> Nobody questions this. Thie issue in this thread is if we could find 
>> ways to make it simpler to enable these services.
> 
> Last I checked, the bugs already spoke about giving utilities the
> ability to punch holes in the firewall and then close them when they're
> done.

and who controls for sure that bad software does not the same?
upnp on the router side is the same stupidity

*nobody* and *nothing* has to punch holes im my firewalls - period

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