On Oct 10, 2013 8:20 PM, "Kevin Kofler" <kevin.kof...@chello.at> wrote: > > Matthew Miller wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:58:32AM -0400, Jens Petersen wrote: > >> > * Fedora Workstation > >> Will this subsume Live-Desktop.iso and Live-KDE.iso? > >> What about other current desktop Spins? > >> Presumably some of these might have a secondary WG. > > > > Right -- one of the key things we need to do is work on the infrastructure > > for building these products in general, and make that infrastructure > > available to SIGs for possible products outside the initial primary ones. > > But the current spins will become even more second-class citizens than they > are right now, whereas 2 spins of dubious value to our real-world users > (Server and Cloud) get featured instead. (How many people will really use > those?) The "Workstation" (hidden GNOME) monoculture is also a completely > unchanged continuation of the "Desktop" (hidden GNOME) monoculture with just > a new name (a name which is all the sillier considering that most Fedora > users are home users). The addition of 2 non-desktop spins is only a lame > attempt at papering over that GNOME monopoly. > > The selection of the 3 "Products" makes the whole concept of Products and > Working Groups worthless and counterproductive. The selection of Products > should have been based on the existing successful spins, and the Working > Groups formed from the existing SIGs. > > >> What about the main toolchain, devel languages, and X/Wayland, etc? > >> Would they fit in here too, or would they be covered by FESCo? > > > > They'd fit somewhere else -- roughly where they always have been. There is > > an idea for something like "the Fedora Commons", except we can't call it > > that because that name is taken by the _other_ Fedora (the digital > > repository software). > > Fedora Core? ;-) > > Kevin Kofler > > --
Are you then nominating yourself for a working group to create the fourth product? --Pete
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