On 10/27/2013 07:43 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 13:43:57 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote:
Or, email not all FE-NEEDSPONSOR tickets but only those which are
deemed too old to be OK.
When would that be?
A recurring problem in the review queue is "long response time". That is,
it takes several weeks (or even longer) till the submitter returns with
a reply and/or an updated package.
Another problem is if the submitter only offers a single new package.
Often a small one, perhaps even with mistakes. Extra bad if it doesn't
build. And while other submitters are brave enough to attempt at
contributing a few reviews, some refuse to do that, and after a few months
will still not have reviewed even their own package and have not read
the "Join" Wiki page step-by-step instructions. Sorry, but there are
guidelines about How To Get Sponsored. A little bit of activity is needed.
Maintenance of the package in the collection also requires some effort.
The sponsors aren't machines, who process the review queue in FIFO order
and only click some buttons. FIFO isn't feasible, because some submitters
are more responsive and are faster at absorbing the packaging guidelines
and at providing packages that pass review.
Certainly not. my idea was just that some kind of reminder if no-one
takes the ball , however that is defined (comment from sponsor, assigned
to sponsor, ...) within some time.
An email message like that (not too often!)
would actually have a high signal/noise ratio, making all of us aware
what's happening when a newcomer is sitting in limbo. Which she should not.
It's always possible for the newcomer to ask for help on devel@ list.
Communicate!
True. But I know newcomers for which sending a mail to this list is a
major step you don't really are ready for at that point. Believe it or
not, I was one of them.
Still remember the feeling sitting with a package waiting for a sponsor,
trying to follow the process but with absolutely no sponsor feedback. It
was *not* encouraging.
Hmmm ... it has taken no more than five days for you to get sponsored:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/794985
In a slightly older ticket, a potential sponsor has returned to you
quickly, and there has been a lot of activity in that ticket beyond that.
If I search the Review Queue for your email address, I also find a
much older attempt at submitting a package in 2008, and even then there
has been quick feedback from a reviewer (after only five days). But
after a series of comments, it gets harder to understand what has
happened, and later you've not responded to the "ping" from a potential
sponsor ( https://bugzilla.redhat.com/471575 ).
So, I think you're not fair.
That package was actually a last attempt, which worked (thanks Petr!).
That said, I havn't blamed anyone, just described my own feeling. How
could that be unfair?
--alec
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