On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Matthias Clasen <mcla...@redhat.com>wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 12:13 +0100, Tim Lauridsen wrote:
> > I have tested gnome-software to see the current state, compaired to
> > gpk in F19, there is a lot stuff there cant be done.
> >
> >
> > 1. You cant install backgrounds / icons
>
> It is an application installer, first and foremost. Installing
> backgrounds/icons/themes is not a priority. That being said, 3.11 can
> install fonts and codecs.
>
I know that it is an application installer, but user want to install
content also
and gpk can do that, so it is a regression in my world.
gnome-software cant install extra backgrounds and icons
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1025209
>
> > 2. Not all application found in the menu, can be found under
> > installed, you can search for them and find them, but cant remove them
> > (ex. Document viewer)
>
> What menu ? And what application ?
>
> We have a notion of 'core app' - for things that 'come with the OS'. We
> don't allow to uninstall those.
>
>
It feels inconsitance that i cant remove evince, but it can remove other
gnome apps like boxes and documents
gnome-software dont show all installed applications
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1025250
> > 3. if you search for 'icons' you get at lot of wrong positives, where
> > there is no visible relation to icons in the text shown
>
> Search looks at keywords from desktop files in addition to descriptions
> and names. Would be good to see some concrete examples of the false
> positives you get. I only get gnome-tweak-tool and some icon-related
> font.
>
>
search in package description, but dont show it
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1021889
> > 4. Description is missing from almost every application.
>
> Richard has pushed very hard for getting descriptions upstream - you may
> have seen his repeated posts on this topic. And we have made quite a bit
> of progress. But getting every application equipped with a good
> description, screenshots, and other metadata will take some time, and
> some help from the packagers and maintainers of those applications.
>
>
I know Richard has pushed hard to get appdata for apps, but it do help the
end user, if lot of apps in gnome-software dont have any descriptions.
Look at System -> File Tools -> Caja-actions configuration tool
How should an end user have a clue what this app does ?
> > I think the current state will make Fedora look limitted for new
> > Fedora users.
>
> Compared to Ubuntu, certainly. But compared to gpk-application F19, I
> don't think so.
>
A tool like gnome-software targets novice enduser (IMHO) and more advanced
user will tools like yum, dnf or yumex
So I try to look at it like a novice end user, and they fill see a more
friendly user interface, but they will not be able to find the things they
are look for.
The Fedora art team has done a great job find good extra background images,
but you have to use a command line to install it on the current F10 gnome
desktop, I is not
a good user experiense i my book.
Personal it is not a problem for me, but I would like Fedora to be as good
as possible for new users, so i took some time to install the gnome desktop
and check the state of thing
and report the issues I have found.
Tim
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