On 22.11.2013 14:58, Tako Schotanus wrote:
So I'm completely new to this packaging business, I managed to piece together a 
SPEC file that results in an actually working RPM for our project and even Koji 
seems to accept it, but there's so much information to absorb that I'm feeling 
a bit out of my depth. (Our project being a programming language we're dealing 
with some difficult issues with respect to versioning and such, for now I've 
copied Java's with alternatives and such which might or not be a good idea). So 
if there are some friendly people here that can guide me through my first real 
submission that would be great!

I really don't know weather this idea is appropriate [*], but since Ceylon development is github based anyway and Ceylon is a fresh new development stack (according to Fedora.next terminology :-) ), what about new github account: fstack-ceylon (Ceylon related packages for Fedora) containing something like:

gh:fstack-ceylon/ceylon/ceylon.spec
gh:fstack-ceylon/ecliplse-ceylon-ide/ecliplse-ceylon-ide.spec
... etc

formed in the same shape as the future dist-git repos (being drafts for them) for all the incoming Ceylon SRPMs.

You could then clone/commit there your current .spec drafts and receive issues and pull requests containing packages improvements (e.g. with pointers to relevant guidelines parts) if it turns out that such style of community work on the specs seems efficient to the established packagers, who already offered help.

I imagine few additional pros:
- Ceylon stack packaging "story" collected under a github account can become a visible guide for the new stacks Fedora integration (especially for the potential contributors which are new to the tracking of the bugzilla.rh packaging bugs and the other Fedora communication channels). - the whole collection of the specs, when polished could be forked and tweaked for other RPM based distributions.

Kind Regards,
Alek

[*] because 1) it seems that few voices are firmly against Fedora specific work on github and 2) this would lead to some bug-tracking fragmentation between github/bugzilla, but I hope the latter is more technical (synchronization/indexing) issue.

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