Am 25.03.2014 15:54, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson:
> On 03/25/2014 02:41 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> stop your destructive FUD, without users developers and contributors are 
>> *meaningless*
>> and with throwing alpha-state software to the users and make them bleed all 
>> the
>> time you will end in no users at all
>>
>> if you don't understand that, don't care for users and don't like Fedora
>> as you statet often enough because you hate Redhat, well, you know what
>> you have to do
> 
> I think you should keep your mouth shut accusing me of destructive FUD

i can seek in the archives how often you attack Redhat and so on
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-February/177915.html

> I'm not the one that is calling developers idiots [1] 

you state [1] two times and list it once with a broken link

here we go: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1072368

nobody right in his mind states *18* loglines for every single
cronjob are fine - multiply that with 85 cronjobs on our main
server, some of them every minute for good reasons

then you have 2 additional lines in /var/log/cron and a
few in /var/log/secure - frankly call that a self-DOS in
case of a central logserver for 30 machines with a database
backend to feed own filter and search applications
_______________________________________________

well deserved in case "flood logs is fine" while that is a naked Rawhide VM
and a production server with cronjobs would produce many ten if not hundret
thousands of log messages leading to no longer face serious ones and without
useful prefixes to filter them outin rsyslog.conf

> then complain about them adding you to their killfile list [2]

the problem with Lennart is that he can't stand *any* critism
and is pissed off or ignoring anything people tell him

bugreports are ignored over months and then after list them
again all commented within minutes - fine

no reply - interesting
http://www.spinics.net/lists/fedora-devel/msg196606.html

> The fact is all the distribution are deprecating tcpwrappers and denyhosts 
> along with it including Debian [1] due to it being maintained and a 
> security risk

don't mix two things
where is the security relevant bug of tcpwrappers?

"it did not get new versions" is not a problem

only people like you don't understand that things which ain't
broken don't need to be fixed and get new bugs due that

> But hey let's keep Fedora out of sync with other distribution and 
> hold progress back to please your usecase

*what progress*
*what are you missing*

> 1. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=7327122

is broken and don't exist at debian nor at Redhat

> 2. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-March/197093.html
> 3. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=732712

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