On 20 June 2014 11:50, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> wrote: > > > Am 20.06.2014 12:36, schrieb Mat Booth: > > On 20 June 2014 11:19, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net <mailto: > h.rei...@thelounge.net>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Am 20.06.2014 11:57, schrieb Mat Booth: > > > On 20 June 2014 10:19, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net > <mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net> > > <mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net <mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net>>> > wrote: > > > > > > Am 20.06.2014 08:55, schrieb drago01: > > > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Jared K. Smith > > > > <jsm...@fedoraproject.org <mailto:jsm...@fedoraproject.org> > <mailto:jsm...@fedoraproject.org > > <mailto:jsm...@fedoraproject.org>>> wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Reindl Harald < > h.rei...@thelounge.net <mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net> > > <mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net <mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net>>> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> Whether you like it or not, one of the most common > complaints about yum > > > >> (especially from people coming from another package > management system) is > > > >> that it seems slow because of the necessity to download the > metadata. The > > > >> DNF developers -- in trying to address this common > complaint -- had solved > > > >> it by handling metadata in a different way. They've also > added settings so > > > >> that power users like you and I can tune it to better fit > our particular > > > >> needs. > > > >> > > > >>> and *no* traffic is not cheap everywhere, by far not > > > >> > > > >> I probably understand this better than a lot of people on > this list, as I've > > > >> been on a bandwidth-limited connection for the past nine > years. Only in the > > > >> past month have I been able to get high speed internet in > my home that > > > >> wasn't limited to a few gigabytes per month. So yes, I > completely > > > >> understand that traffic isn't cheap (or fast) everywhere. > > > > > > > > It should be at least smart enough to not do it on mobile > broadband > > > > (like packagekit does) > > > > > > how should it do that? > > > > > > it's imagination that any software knows anything about the > internet connection > > > even 11 years ago with a 56k modem that access was shared for > my LAN and so > > > the only thing the notebook knew about the inernet was > "appears to be slow" > > > > > > IIRC, NetworkManager's DBus API should be able to give you that > information > > > > from where should it get that information if your network connection > is > > a Gigabit-Ethernet LAN to the router with a slow DSL upstream? > > > > your whole machine has no idea about your WAN connection > > > > Woah there... The suggestion was to simply let it be "smart enough to > not do it on mobile broadband" to which you > > asked "how?" > > > > I answered only that question > > again: > > * 3G stick aka mobile broadband as WAN connection > * that WAN connection is shared in the LAN > * the single machines don't know anything about the WAN connection > > believe it or not, but here in austria it's not uncommon to get a > box with 3G and on the other end a ethernet-port where you connect > your devices and have some hundret MB per month > > in the meantime many of that packages are going in the direction > ulimited traffic, but that's nothing you can be sure about as > OS supplier > > Well sure, but there's no sense in throwing out all imperfect solutions because of a desire for perfection. Don't you agree that a good first step would be to teach DNF how to talk to NetworkManager?
3G internet is common in my locale too -- this would at least cover the use case of connecting with a 3G dongle or tethered mobile phone. -- Mat Booth http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora
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