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> On Thu, 2015-01-08 at 08:54 -0500, Bastien Nocera wrote:
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> > <snip>
> > > Thanks, Hans. We wanted to make sure that we didn't have another
> > > instance of the bluetooth fiasco from a couple releases ago, where GNOME
> > > changed the Bluetooth stack and broke things underneath KDE. If this is
> > > already addressed (or at least irrelevant), that's perfect.
> > 
> > BlueZ 5.0, released december 2012.
> > GNOME with BlueZ 5 support, september 2013.
> > Fedora 20 with BlueZ 5 included, december 2013.
> 
> Was it really only F20? Seems older than that. Anyway, it's irrelevant
> when BlueZ landed upstream. What went wrong was that GNOME landed the
> support which broke backwards compatibility, which forced KDE to
> scramble to get it working on their side. This was a communication
> issue, and I think everyone would prefer not to repeat it. My apologies
> if my original message bringing it up sounded accusatory. It was not my
> intent.

And sometimes we live in this GNOME vs KDE world and then we forget all
other desktops in Fedora - NM 0.9 fiasco. Where GNOME and KDE were somehow
ready and everything else was released broken. So it's definitely good to
talk and do it in advance.

Jaroslav
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