Note the the issue was a silent abi change in the libraries around dnf. Had we 
not hit the atomic issue we would have pushed out the changed abi and likely 
broken updates on end users systems. It is a good thing that we hit it when and 
how we did.

Dennis

On July 31, 2015 3:54:18 AM CDT, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> wrote:
>
>Am 31.07.2015 um 03:15 schrieb Johnny Robeson:
>> On Fri, 2015-07-31 at 02:40 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>>> Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>>>> Friday (20150724), it hit a problem in the fedora22 updates-testing
>>>> atomic compose. We worked thru and fixed one, but there's still
>>>> some
>>>> sort of issue preventing it from completing. ;(
>>>
>>> So this useless "Fedora Atomic" toy now delayed updates (including
>>> security
>>> updates!) for everybody, i.e., also for the >99% of our users who do
>>> NOT use
>>> "Atomic"? I find it unacceptable that we are being held hostage by
>>> that kind
>>> of niche project (considering that one argument for adding support
>>> for it
>>> was that if we don't want to use it, it won't affect us).
>>>
>> Please have respect for other peoples work. I expect to find this
>> language on common web forums, but we can do better here
>
>well, the friendly version:
>
>something is terrible wrong designed in the 
>build/deployment-environments when unrelated stuff failing leads to
>fail 
>anything
>
>compose of atomic failed?
>
>so who cares, write a mail to the sysadmins and continue with the other
>
>repos and as long that is not possible Fedora should refrain from
>adding 
>more and more install flavours and re-design how the things are 
>technically managed internally before
>
>
>
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