On 09/14/2015 01:56 PM, Haïkel wrote:
2015-09-14 13:17 GMT+02:00 Andrew Haley <a...@redhat.com>:
On 09/13/2015 09:23 PM, Haïkel wrote:
I'm not speaking about PHP, most of the upstream I deal with
are python developers. Bad habits are rather spreading than
regressing.

We're not going to solve that problem by adopting bad habits
ourselves.

Andrew.


Did I request somewhere to *drop* unbundling?
I'm more concerned by the current habit to let bundled libraries sneak
in the repositories without being properly tracked rather than a
non-existing one.

a) We don't have any such tracking system.
b) So far, this has not been a problem.

In the past, this these issues were commonly worked around by Fedora maintainers forking in private and them feeding them into Fedora as set of patches.

Our role is mitigate bad habits and educate upstream, not ignoring them.
Right, but you're underestimating the stubbornness and non-cooperativeness of some upstream and fedora maintainer. They usually believe to have an "ultra-clever design" and the FPC to be dumb idiots who are unable to comprehend their cleverness.

Ralf


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