​As I found this discussion interesting and I believe FESCo is the right
authority to help with this, I have opened a ticket ​
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1495 for the FESCo meeting on
Wednesday, to discuss it.

Regards,
Jan


On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net>
wrote:

>
>
> Am 02.11.2015 um 02:28 schrieb Sérgio Basto:
>
>> On Dom, 2015-11-01 at 17:53 +0000, Peter Robinson wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Sérgio Basto <ser...@serjux.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sex, 2015-10-30 at 17:47 +0100, Jan Kurik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> At the third round of Fedora 23 Final Go/No-Go Meeting, that just
>>>>> ends, has been Fedora 23 Final-RC10 declared as GOLD.
>>>>> GA of this release is planed on Tuesday 2015-Nov-03.
>>>>>
>>>>> Today we got 531 updates for F23 , IMO, you should include it on Fedora
>>>> 23 Final before GA , doesn't make sense (to me) after download an ISO
>>>> have 1/2 Giga of updates, but this happens since RedHad 9 at least .
>>>> IMO, testing team should respin ISO with updates and testing again .
>>>> I have some difficulty in following all development, fortunately Fedora
>>>> is always at great speed, but it is not easy to follow. And do more
>>>> tests we not lose anything, IMHO.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The problem is we have to freeze sometime to ensure stability in the
>>> installer platform, the live and other images which are static. If not
>>> it's too much of a moving target to try and QA and ensure everything
>>> works as expected. To freeze is a fairly standard procedure for all
>>> distro development.
>>>
>>
>> Make an respin for F23 with stable updates, IMHO, should not break
>> anything, because at this stage, just stable things are being pushed
>>
>
> in theory
>
> it should be just one more loop in testing phase, anyway if breaks
>> something test team can freeze process again, until provide a  fix.
>>
>
> who does the work for *what* benefit?
> it's just wasting ressources and manpower
>
> who cares about the install ISO when you ave anyways to apply updates
> after or in the best case *due* setup
>
> This is not new !, respins of fedoraunity was an example and we already
>> have living respins [1], so we just need do new respin officially!.
>> Shouldn't be a big deal, If I'm not mistaken.
>>
>
> and fedoraunity finally gave up because lack of ressources
>
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