Am 31.08.2016 um 17:26 schrieb Lex Trotman:
I think we all agree that help of language-specific plugins is
desired/required. No need to restate "we need language specific support" all
the time.
We just disagree on how the language-specific knowledge is transported to
Geany, other plugins and the user.
Well, I read your previous comments such as "But *just* the data,
don't offload very specific use cases onto them" (and to some extent
this one too) as saying that all the plugin has to do is return some
data (tags) and Geany will take it from there and all I was doing was
making sure it was clear that its unlikely that Geany will be able to
"take it from there" in any meaningful way, based purely on data,
without filetype specific knowledge inside Geany.
Here we disagree. I think it is possible to extent TM/Geany sufficiently
to encode this information in generic ways. As an example, template
instantiation yields different types. TM could tread them as different
types. Any variable will be of one of the types, so calltips would just
work.
Geany must ask the plugin for the answer for each element of
functionality the plugin provides. This means that those elements
have indeed simply moved "Geany's deficiencies to the plugin space" as
you put it. This is good and necessary.
To me this is not good because it makes it impossible to use the
information for other use cases in Geany or other plugins.
For example, I want to keep my quickswitch plugin that allows me to jump
to arbitrary tags, even if a ft-plugin is doing all the hard work to
parse them.
Of course moving the problem to plugin space doesn't mean the plugin
can't use Geany facilities where their capabilities fit the
requirement. But we should not try to expand Geany to handle all
types of functionality.
Like your TM query interface, the plugins should answer the questions
like "whats the autocomplete here", "what calltips are relevant here"
with a flat list of data relevant to the question.
My TM query interface wants to return all matching tags, including those
found by ft-plugins. Can this be done?
Best regards
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