> > > What I was suggesting though is > that there should *not* be a clock in the Sugar frame visible all the > time.
+1 to including hooks to Sugar for frame-resident mini-apps. +1 to making the frame clock optional (turned on from the clock activity - another reason to keep it an activity) and not the default option. If people want it, they will find it - vice versa is not as true. +1 to a respect that there are vastly differing cultural views of time -1 to the idea that any other culture's view of time is so inherently fragile that it can be shattered by a simple digital clock. The percentage of people who have NOT seen a clock is ever-shrinking - I suspect it's a safe guess that many people reading this message may have grown up when that percentage was several times what it is now. I'll hazard another bet: the xo will NOT have any measurable impact on that trend. And another: many cultural views of time are in fact just as compatible with the clock as yours, even if you (naturally) think that yours is the logical result of the clock. -1 to the idea that we should deliberately leave out features in order to encourage kids to program. O, ye of little faith. My opinions, Jameson
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