>OLPC cannot currently preload the Adobe Flash player--you'll > have to load the rpm yourself.
This is obvious, but OLPC could make it easier for implementers to install flash and proprietary codecs using bundles and the customization key. > the project could approach Adobe and ask that they allow the plugin to be > > packaged for distribution during school deployments. You can install the plugin for your own deployment. Unfortunately OLPC, nor anyone else, can include the plugin in a piece of software that can be downloaded from the Internet. On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 12:15 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: > I don't think anyone is saying, don't use Flash. But it comes at a > cost: OLPC cannot currently preload the Adobe Flash player--you'll > have to load the rpm yourself. But perhaps more to the point, Adobe > may or may not make an effort to improve the quality of Flash on the > XO laptop. The Gnash team--with help from the community--will make > that effort. So, it seems that when and where we can, we should be > supporting Gnash. > > -walter > > 2008/3/24 Carol Lerche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I'd just like to second Bryan's viewpoint here. Hewing to the open media > > line has been impossible for my small deployment, and my past experience > > supporting technology in a larger school context is consistent with this. > > Find a sensible middle ground to make it easy and seamless for those > > deploying the XS/XO combination in real schools to install ubiquitous free > > (as in beer) components, and work toward better licenses and open codecs as > > a background goal. There is just too much to do for the kids. In the > > specific case of Adobe flash, it would be excellent if someone friendly to > > the project could approach Adobe and ask that they allow the plugin to be > > packaged for distribution during school deployments. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Bryan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can these modules be recoded for Gnash? I don't see this as an > > either/or. > > > > > > Frankly I don't have the time for this, preparing for a deployment is > > > extremely time-consuming. If I were to recode them, I fear I would find > > > a whole new set of flash-based materials that would need to be recoded. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 00:58 -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: > > > > On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Bryan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Edward Cherlin Wrote: > > > > > > That might be the quickest strategy, but I don't agree that it is > > the best. > > > > > > > > > > > > * Gnash needs funding and developers. Let's do it. Rob Savoye says, > > as > > > > > > I understand it, that more codecs have been cracked but not coded > > for. > > > > > > Rob, can we get the list? Is there a roadmap for implementation? I > > > > > > didn't see it in any of the obvious places. > > > > > > > > > > Sugar needs more developers, the XS needs more developers and > > resources, > > > > > this project as a whole needs a lot more resources. > > > > > > > > > > There are a lot of awesome flash-based modules for magnetism, > > > > > electricity, math, and basic science. Flash is pervasive in > > educational > > > > > courseware development. We shouldn't make kids wait until we come up > > > > > with a completely free alternative to Flash. > > > > > > > > Can these modules be recoded for Gnash? I don't see this as an > > either/or. > > > > > > > > I am willing to discuss bundling Flash on the XO if Adobe will give us > > > > a license. I am willing to work out an easy download process if not. > > > > Regardless of that we need to finish Gnash, and get as many Flash > > > > videos as possible recoded for Gnash. Different people can choose > > > > which of those paths to work on, if they like. > > > > > > > > > One aspect of this project is that kids can discover things on their > > > > > own. If we have very limited flash support we are limiting what kids > > can > > > > > discover to works that we have transcoded or Gnash fully supports. > > > > > > > > > > OLPC can't bundle flash into their images but they can make it > > > > > significantly easier for deployment teams to add it as an .xo bundle > > > > > just as we currently add custom activity bundles. > > > > > > > > > > I agree that the long-term strategy should be to support Gnash and/or > > > > > get Adobe to open up their Flash player. But we have pilots running > > now > > > > > and kids that want to learn science, mathematics, English, etc. Let's > > > > > not make them wait. > > > > > > > > > > Bryan > > > > > Kathmandu > > > > > > > > We seem to agree on the principles, and we can recruit for each of the > > > > alternatives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Olpc-open mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > "Always do right," said Mark Twain. "This will gratify some people and > > astonish the rest." > > _______________________________________________ > > Devel mailing list > > Devel@lists.laptop.org > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel