On Fri, 23 May 2008, Gary C Martin wrote:

it's not 'keyfeel like a remington typewriter', it's enough keyfeel to be
able to touch-type. it doesn't take much, but I haven't seen any
touchscreen that has any.

I realize that kids aren't going to start off touch-typing, but if the
keyboard layout is close to the standard for that country (which the core
of it should be, even if there are extra keys) they should learn the skill
sooner or later.

David Lang

Touch type, blimey, I didn't think we were trying to rote train kids to be secretarial staff – didn't that go out with the arc? Well it should have. I've used computers with standard QWERTY keys for the last 26 years, perhaps the last 18 professionally, and I've never been able to touch type. I look at keys and use just a few fingers to hunt and peck, and I pay my bills just fine. I'm guessing I usually re-edit my texts way, way more than just write in one pass, so touch typing in a single pass is just a carpal accident waiting to happen.

I hear 'who needs to touch type' from a lot of computer users, but those same users at different times say 'wow, how do you do that so fast' and frequently get distracted from what they are trying to do by the mechanics of entering the data.

it's not just secretarial staff that benifits from typing instruction, it's anyone who uses a computer freqently.

this is very similar to reading, yes you can get kids to where they can sound out each word and they can get through a book, but once they get to the point where they can stop paying attention to the mechanics of reading they can then start paying attention to the content of what they are reading (this is why speed reading classes frequently improve comprehention and retention as well as speed)

***Immediate visual and low frequency sound feedback (from the touch surface) would be a real good start, and BTW power saving is going to get even tougher... Also physical registration dimples for those that need them would be a very good plan for the HW mould, even if they are just bumps for the F and J positions. And I hope there is a cheap/safe solution to the scratch issue, iPhones and iPod Touches use glass (opinion).

normal keyboards get away with FJ dimples becouse you can tell where your fingers are from the feel of the keys. putting raised outlines around the key locations would be a wonderful step forward from a flat touchscreen.

the other problem with a flat touchscreen as a keyboard is that a typist wants to rest their hands on the keyboard and press to type something. trying to tell the difference between the hands sitting on the home row and a person trying to type something is going to be extremely difficult.

Sorry David, I think it was the touch-type comment that set me off. If in 2010 we have affordable HW that works at least as well as the iPhone / iPod Touch (but with copy/paste), XO-2 will be a fair proposition, and having one of the dual screens devoted as a touch keyboard when needed will be a big UI improvement over current PDA/smart-phone type input.

if you are comparing this to a cell-phone, you are probably right, it would be an improvement (although even with them tactile feedback makes a huge difference), but I don't agree that that should be the standard for comparison.

David Lang
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