Edward, Thank you for your feedback on SocialCalc. Appreciate it.
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:17 AM, Edward Cherlin <echer...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks. I believe that you are right in your comments below, that the > Open Document spec, manuals for other software, and your video will > enable us to create an excellent manual at FLOSSManuals.net. Would you > like to join us when we do the Book Sprint? > > Could you please let us know about the date of the Book Sprint. Would ask our team members to participate in it. > I am thinking about what we might add to the Help in SocialCalc, > allowing for the tradeoff between space and completeness. Adding links > to existing documentation will provide a sufficient backstop, but I > think that there are several places where just a few words will make > all the difference for beginning SocialCalc users, particularly for > harried teachers. I don't want to make them learn too much themselves, > or to have to tell children to rely too much on external resources. > > I'm sure that we can find a suitable balance on these questions. > Yes. It would be great if we could arrive at a list where we get this feeling. > > > (I think there is a reported issue that SocialCalc's IF > > function only takes the 3 argument form, not the 2 argument form. It also > > evaluated all arguments unlike many other IF functions.) > > > > The toolbar buttons, including the two types of move and swap colors, as > > well as the sheet settings, names, and more are explained in a video I > > created. The 54 minute Flash video, created with Camtasia, goes over many > of > > the features of the main SocialCalc engine that the Sugar version of > > SocialCalc is built upon. (For example, that version does not have the > > Sugar-specific graphing tab.) You can view the video at: > > > > http://www.peapodcast.com/sgi/socialtext/sctraining1/ > > Perfect. I'll report on that soon. > Thank you. Regards, Manu > > > Edward Cherlin wrote: > > > > I ran through all of the basic functions of SocialCalc, including > > every icon on every tab. I have tested some but not all of the 109 > > functions provided, with good results so far. Although there are > > functions I could wish for, the only real deficiency I have found is > > in the documentation. > > > > I have created a page for elements of Sugar that children are not > > likely to discover on their own, > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/The_undiscoverable. I recommend it to > > developers who want to think about whether more of Sugar can be made > > discoverable, or whether we need to write lesson plans for the > > features that cannot be made obvious to the novice. I will put in a > > section for SocialCalc. These are not bugs in the sense of incorrect > > behavior or missing explanations, so I omit them here. > > > > Here is a summary of the other issues I have encountered. > > > > o The database functions are severely underdocumented. What database? > > What are databaserange, fieldname, criteriarange? > > > > o Where does Paste Formats get its formats from? > > > > o What does Swap Colors do? > > > > o The financial and statistical function definitions in the Help might > > be clear to one who uses other spreadsheets a lot, but certainly are > > not to a beginner. > > > > o More explanation is needed on angles in degrees and radians. > > > > o I understand Move From and Move Paste, but not Move Insert. > > > > o I see how to set names, but not what to use them for or how. > > > > o I don't see the Sheet setting control on the Format tab that the > > Help refers to. > > > > o I found the OK and Sort... buttons on the Sort tab confusing. It has > > since become clear to me. Perhaps OK should be renamed Set Range. > > > > Not bad for a beta. > > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Manusheel Gupta<m...@laptop.org> wrote: > > > > > > Dear community members, > > > > We are preparing for the next release of SocialCalc on Sugar. > Localization > > infrastructure, canonicalization of the save format and collaboration > will > > be the key features available in the next release. We are also looking > > forward to develop interoperability between SocialCalc format and a > number > > of other spreadsheet formats like .wk3/.wk4/csv/excel/open office > > spreadsheet. We have recently received a number of requests on developing > > interoperability between SocialCalc and .wk3/.wk4 format, which has been > a > > challenging problem to work on. Hope to get this feature ready before the > > next release. > > > > Lately, I have been testing SocialCalc on the Sugar Live CD, and have run > > into issues. I can't seem to get SocialCalc to start. I fired up the > Sugar > > LiveCD, and opened up the USB icon in my journal. I can see the file > > SocialCalc.xo on my USB stick. When I click on it, I get a start button, > > but then nothing happens. Below is a gears image, which starts something > > that looks like a developer interface. Not sure, where I have been going > > wrong. Any help on this issue is highly appreciated. > > > > Please visit the SocialCalc on Sugar page at > > http://seeta.in/j/products-and-services/socialcalc-on-sugar.html. The > > activity is available for download both from the SEETA website > > (http://seeta.in) and from activities.sugarlabs.org. If you have any > > questions, or would like to add suggestions/comments/feature requests, > > please do so here. > > > > Thank you for your continued support. > > > > Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > -- > Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin > Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. > The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. > http://earthtreasury.org/ >
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