Sebastian -
No, you're quite right - it's hard. And it's hard to tell whether most users
are silent because they're happy with it, or they're silent because they don't
even realize that they have a choice.
- Ed
On Apr 15, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Sebastian Silva wrote:
> Hi Ed,
> Our friends and volunteers Tuukka and Kaisa are currently in Pucallpa working
> with the teachers and kids. They probably havent seen this thread but this
> issue
> has popped up often here too and I wonder what you might think constitutes
> "consensus from deployments".
>
> Also, the larger issue of how to get the "silent majority" to speak up is
> something
> we are constantly working hard from the field to improve. Its hard, any
> suggestions
> on where exactly to aggregate info from the field, in a way that is not merely
> anecdotal, is welcome.
>
> Sebastian
>
> 2010/4/15 Ed McNierney <e...@laptop.org>
> Paul -
>
> This issue has bubbled up from time to time over the last 18 months or so
> (judging from my email archives). It is not at all clear to me that there is
> indeed a "consensus from deployments"; some like it, some don't. We tend to
> (unsurprisingly) hear little or nothing from the people who think it's
> working just fine, and it is very easy for a local group in which a few folks
> think the behavior is wrong to quickly collectively conclude that it's wrong.
> We've deployed hundreds of thousands of machines since this change, and I
> don't think we've seen hundreds of thousands of complaints.
>
> I don't have a strong opinion and I don't know the answer, but we should be
> very careful about ignoring the silent majority, if there is one.
>
> - Ed
>
>
> On Apr 15, 2010, at 11:18 AM, Paul Fox wrote:
>
> > daniel wrote:
> >> On 15 April 2010 11:40, Martin Langhoff <martin.langh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Sebastian Silva
> >>> <sebast...@fuentelibre.org> wrote:
> >>>> BTW how do you disable it?
> >>>
> >>> Yeah -- can we disable it easily on F11 builds?
> >>
> >> (speaking only for XO) No. We would have to change mouse driver which
> >> introduces a handful of regressions, will need some real effort to
> >> resolve. See the discussions earlier in the thread.
> >>
> >> The most realistic quick-fix option I can think of is adding a small
> >> hack into the psmouse driver in the OLPC kernel, which sends the
> >> single command needed to disable tap-to-click. Last time I looked at
> >> this code I remember thinking that this would be quite easy, since the
> >> more-powerful synaptics driver doesn't actually change the mode of the
> >> mouse, it just takes advantage of a whole load of non-standard
> >> commands.
> >
> > that's a good idea.
> >
> > if such a thing were to be introduced, and if it could be made
> > run-time or boot-time controllable, i take it the consensus from
> > deployments is that tap-to-click is more confusing than helpful,
> > and it should be disabled by default. correct?
> >
> > (i know that i myself find it annoying. the XO is annoying
> > enough to type on, without having my windows flip out from under
> > me because i have careless thumbs.)
> >
> > paul
> > =---------------------
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