noiseehc wrote: > Could you just put UP to the place of ?, put ? to the place of RIGHT, > and put RIGHT to the place of UP? > I am not THAT old to understand what is so cool about that "hjkl vi > arrangement" and I guess no children will either. > I feel that moving just one more key from its 101 key standard position > cannot suck more that the current arrow key arrangement...
please don't misunderstand -- the intention of the arrow key arrangement never had the goal of recreating hjkl. if that had been the goal, we could have put the arrows _on_ h, j, k, and l, and used the Fn key to produce them, which is how those vi commands came about in the first place: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_Terminal_ADM3A.svg obviously, compatibility with a 35 year old terminal is uninteresting. the real goal was to not misplace the ? key. paul > > > Walter Bender wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Tiago Marques <tiago...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> I was just looking at the layout again and just noticed the new arrow keys > >> placement. That is a very awkward placement. Is that definitive or can you > >> do something like shorten the shift key to accommodate the UP arrow? > >> I suppose that would be another hard sell for deployments against netbooks > >> with the regular placement of keys. > >> Best regads, > >> Tiago > >> > > > > We debated this one. A shorter shift key would be difficult to type > > on. We opted to emulate the hjkl vi arrangement. > > > > -walter > > > > > >> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Tiago Marques <tiago...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> I must ask, what's the default behavior of function keys in the new > >>> layout? Fn changes them to F keys, or are they F keys without Fn pressed? > >>> Tiago > >>> > >>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <mi...@bga.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>>> The following are the keyboard layouts and legends for these > >>>>> new keyboards. Much thanks to Walter Bender for developing > >>>>> these given a bad set of constraints. > >>>>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_English_Non-membrane_Keyboard > >>>>> > >>>> There may be users who wish to plug in an external keyboard. Such > >>>> external keyboards often have function keys grouped in sets of four. > >>>> Such grouping places F5 at the beginning of a row of four keys, and > >>>> places F6 in the middle of a row of four keys. > >>>> > >>>> Suppose users might be pressing the key for 'frame' more often than the > >>>> key for 'search'. Should the 'frame' function be assigned to the F5 > >>>> key, since on external keyboards the F5 key might be easier to locate ? > >>>> > >>>> mikus > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Devel mailing list > >>>> Devel@lists.laptop.org > >>>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > >>>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Devel mailing list > >> Devel@lists.laptop.org > >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > part 2 text/plain 129 > _______________________________________________ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel =--------------------- paul fox, p...@laptop.org _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel