Hi all,

After discussing this with Caryl in the community summit, my understanding is that you want to reorganise the content into new chapters that are longer than the existing ones. Booki (the software behind FLOSS Manuals) doesn't support such merging except via copy and paste of content.

In case you still want to remix some existing chapters instead of just copying and pasting it all, here's a few clarifications:

* You don't want to use the "Remix" section of en.flossmanuals.net as that produces a PDF export, not a book that can be edited further.

* To import chapters from a book that is not on the same FLOSS Manuals / Booki site, you'd first need to import the remote book to the local site (page "My manuals" section "Import Manual").

* To import a chapter from another local book, you'd want to use the "Import Chapter" link on top of the Table of contents view of the book editor. In the dialog, a book/chapter browsing widget pending, "Book id" and "Chapter id" refer to the parts such as "xo" and "about-olpc" respectively of a chapter URI of the form

http://booki.flossmanuals.net/xo/_draft/_v/1.0/about-olpc/


Let me know how it goes,
Tuukka

2011-10-25 22:36, Walter Bender kirjoitti:
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Caryl Bigenho<cbige...@hotmail.com>  wrote:


Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:46:23 -0400
Subject: Re: Need To Know: How to get the latest Help Activity on Macs and
PCs???
From: walter.ben...@gmail.com
To: cbige...@hotmail.com
CC: devel@lists.laptop.org; support-g...@laptop.org;
i...@lists.sugarlabs.org

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Caryl Bigenho<cbige...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Walter,

The Help Activity we want to work from is 11.3.0. It is version 13 and
was
updated by Bastien, David Farning, and Brian Jordan.  I don't think they
did
anything with the Turtle Art Activity. As far as I can see, the last
work on
it was done in 2008 during, or soon after, the Book Sprint.  I you have
11.3.0 running on an XO you can check it over and be sure of the status
and
contents.

I thought that the idea was to pull fresh content from the Wikibooks
we had written and that the TA book was one of the sources, hence I
updated it. I'll try downloading the latest help activity bits and
check them. Are they not available on ASLO?
Yes, we would like to import the newest versions taken from updated manuals.
That is what Tuukka is helping with.  But even then, they may need some
"tweaking" for the latest 11.3.0 Also, some that are much longer than the
original SECTIONS may not be used in their entirety, but instead will be
referenced with links. We are a bit concerned about space and don't want the
Activity SECTIONS to be long enough to be a whole separate manual. The idea
is to get folks off to a good start with an Activity and have them do one or
2 projects.  Then they can go to the Activity's own manual to learn more.
Now, "true confessions," I am not familiar with the acronym "ASLO."  What
does it refer to and how can we use it to make the FLOSS manual revisions?
Is it something we can use to read and edit the material on our laptops/
Caryl

Thanks. It is all starting to become clearer as to what has been
done/what needs to be done.

Sorry about the use of the acronym. As Kevin explained, it refers to
activities.sugarlabs.org. The version stored there was last updated in
July.

I am still not quite sure the best way to contribute: presumably not
by submitting a patch (a file that itemizes the difference between the
current version and my proposed changes). For the time being, I'll
continue to update the FLOSSmanual itself and offer Tuukka some help.
Is there a bug report associated with the Booki problem he is
encountering?

regards.

-walter


thanks.
-walter


We should be able to import chapters from other FLOSS manuals, such as
your
Turtle Art manual, although I have had some difficulty making it work.
  Tuukka wrote the latest version of booki and he is going to check it to
see
if there is a problem that needs fixing.

Sandra Thaxter wasn't at the SF Summit but has signed up to help with
the
Turtle Art sections.  You may wish to contact her and sign up to work
with
her. Links and directions for doing so are here: http://j.mp/xomanual

Is this somehow different from editing the wikibook? Doesn't make sense.


People will be working remotely and then cutting and pasting their work
into
booki or entering it directly at the booki site. That is why we need to
know
how to get the current version on our laptops. Then everyone can work in
the
mode they are most comfortable with.

It is fine to let people work in whatever way they want, but we need a
common place to put the results. If that is not the wikimanual, then
why isn't it simply the wiki itself?

I guess I should have been there in person instead of trying to
participate remotely :P

-walter

Caryl

Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 19:40:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Need To Know: How to get the latest Help Activity on Macs
and
PCs???
From: walter.ben...@gmail.com
To: cbige...@hotmail.com
CC: support-g...@laptop.org; iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org;
devel@lists.laptop.org; dow...@montanalinux.org; christ...@linux.com

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Caryl Bigenho<cbige...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Folks,

As most of you already know, a group of people have volunteered to
write
an
up-to-date revision of the Help Activity that will be available
online,
in a
print version via Lulu, and on the XO itself.  We set things up at
the
great
Community Summit in San Francisco last weekend, and are ready to
start
work.

Do you know if the updates I made to the Turtle Art manual were pulled
in?

Curious.

-walter


We want to take advantage of the most recent revisions that are
currently
available in the Help Activity rather than the older, more "dated"
versions
in the older online FLOSS manual.  Why reinvent the wheel?  All
previous
authors and editors will be credited in the new version.

The most up-to-date/Sugarized edition is Version 13, as included in
Release
11.3.0  RC3 / Build 882 (or 883) It is downloadable at:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org//en-US/sugar/addon/4051

Most of us are writing on Macs and PCs running a variety of OS'es. If
someone knows how to download the most up-to-date file (linked above)
in
a
readable/editable  form on a Mac (or PC), please tell us how and also
post
the instructions on this page http://j.mp/xomanual

And, while you are on that page, if you feel motivated to join in the
revision effort, just sign up for whichever section you would like to
help
with!

Thanks,

chrCaryl

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