I too will test this weekend. Silly q: should I test both sugar and gnome, or just sugar?
KG On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Paul Fox <p...@laptop.org> wrote: > bert wrote: > > > > On 24.11.2011, at 16:09, Paul Fox wrote: > > > > > bert wrote: > > >> Today is a sunny day in cold Germany, unlike in the first half of > the week. > > So > > >> I took the 1.75 outside. > > >> > > >> IMHO the auto-off is fine as implemented in os12. Not distracting at > all. > > >> Someone suggested turning it back on quicker, I tried that (replaced > > >> brightness_ramp with set_brightness), but that was much less nice. > > >> > > >> As I said previously I like the new mono toggle using the brightness > keys > > with > > >> ctrl. > > >> > > >> But I also like the switch to mono when turning the brightness down > > manually. > > >> Much more convenient (and way more discoverable) than having to > remember the > > >> ctrl-modifier. So I added those two lines back just as they were > before, and > > it > > >> works fine. I would find it a foolish consistency to drop this just > because > > >> automatic switch-off doesn't do it. > > > > > > okay, sold. > > > > > > i did have a very brief chance to play with the laptop in the sun two > > > days ago, and after trying more varied types of content, i better > > > appreciate the value of mono mode. it's sunny here today, so i hope > > > to get to play with it some more myself. > > > > > > i've implemented what a couple of people suggested for brightness key > > > behavior: > > > > (haven't seen that yet in your git repo) > > not pushed yet. > > > > > > - reducing brightness manually to level 0 remains colored (unlike > > > past releases, where level 0 also implied mono). > > > > > > - hitting "brightness down" one more time when at level 0 will > > > switch to mono. users that use auto-repeat to get there probably > > > won't see a difference. > > > > Not needed, see below. > > > > > - alt-brightness-down goes to level-0 in mono mode, as it always did. > > > i think it's a coin-toss whether it should go to level-0 in mono or > > > level-0 in color. (thoughts?) > > > > Mono. > > good. > > > > > > - "brightness up" from level 0 (whether from the color or mono > > > version of level 0) will always go to level 1, and restore color. > > > > > > - sunlight-driven auto-turnoff will go all the way to 0, but won't > > > invoke mono mode. > > > > > > bert, i think you approved of the idea of this scheme on irc, please > let > > > me know if you still think so. > > > > > > paul > > > > > > I now think having two zero-brightness settings (crisp / blurred) > > does not make sense for general usage. +1 to what Gary wrote in > > his followup. > > > > For those who want to play with that we have ctrl-brightness-down/up to > toggle > > blurryness ;) > > > > So I would rather not add that extra step "below 0". > > okay, i'm fine with that -- i was on the fence. but i think you and > gary are saying two slightly different things. > > you're saying that the manual keypresses shouldn't have an intermediate > "level 0 in color" step. gary's saying that auto-turnoff should go > to level 0 in mono. i'm happy to agree with you. i don't think i'm > ready to agree with gary. > > reason for not agreeing with gary: the switch from color to mono and > back is very noticeable when you're in bright sunlight. the > auto-turnoff should be designed to be as transparent to the user as > possible. there will be times when the auto-turnoff won't do quite > the right thing -- perhaps your hands are shading the sensor > momentarily, or perhaps your laptop was sleeping when you came > outside, and the auto-turnoff won't take effect until your first > keystroke wakes it up. in those cases i think the auto-turnoff should > stay in color mode. > > paul > > > > > - Bert - > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Devel mailing list > > Devel@lists.laptop.org > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > =--------------------- > paul fox, p...@laptop.org > _______________________________________________ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >
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