On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Sameer Verma <sve...@sfsu.edu> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Caryl Bigenho <cbige...@hotmail.com>wrote: > >> Hi... >> >> I have also been waiting patiently (well, not really very patiently) for >> some news about Sugar coming to Android. So far, I have heard nothing new. >> So I guess it isn't too late to throw my educator's opinion into the mix... >> One of the things that makes Sugar the ideal learning platform for >> children (and youth) is the wonderful compatibility of so many of the >> Activities ... both from Activity to Activity and from student to student. >> This facilitates the sort of learning we are all hoping to see more of... >> creative problem solving, project based learning and cooperative learning. >> Without this ability to integrate parts of projects, it would just be >> another collection of apps. >> Thanks for "listening" >> Caryl >> >> > Hi Caryl, > > Thanks for writing back. I am a bit surprised that I got more off-list > responses than on-list ones. I did not want to muddy the picture by > injecting my own viewpoint, but now that I've heard from others (on and off > list) it is clear that the split is driven by the role they play in the > ecosystem. > > Most technologists have come up with reasons why they don't think a > complete Sugar experience would work on Android. Therefore, activities must > run like any other app on Android. On the other hand, as Caryl said, > "Without this ability to integrate...it would just be a collection of > apps". > > Somewhat knowing the limitations of what can be done with Sugar stuff on > Android, but disregarding that for a minute, I would say that Sugar as a > *platform* is an experience. It has a UI. It has a UX. Everything from the > Zoom interface to the activities to the Journal is Sugar. We have taken the > original "Sugar on the OLPC XO" experience and replicated that to the > classmate PC, SoaS, and other spins and distros, but in none of these cases > did we break the holistic Sugar experience. Now, along comes a popular OS, > and because the tech parts don't fit, we are advocating breaking up the > pieces and taking whatever flies. Memorize will become one of the few > hundred thousand apps on Android. > > I disagree. > > It's like saying we'll do the cat sprite from Scratch, but nothing else. > It's like saying we'll do the birds and pigs from Angry Birds, but not the > slingshot. Sugar, without all its pieces isn't worth the trouble. How it > will get done (if it will get done) is another story, and I wish we would > hear more about it onlist. > Well said! Cheers, Christoph > cheers, > Sameer > > ------------------------------ >> From: sve...@sfsu.edu >> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 13:14:59 -0700 >> To: i...@lists.sugarlabs.org; devel@lists.laptop.org >> Subject: [IAEP] Sugar on Android via HTML5 >> >> >> So, I've been mulling this for some time now. At work we are looking into >> using FireFoxOS as a platform for HTML5 apps in some of our courses. It's >> exciting that there is some momentum on the HTML5 activities in Sugar. >> >> What I'm unsure about is the implementation. Outside of the classic Sugar >> shell and activities (say, on a XO), are we envisioning the whole Sugar >> experience on Android, UI and all, or are we looking to have Sugar >> activities running on Android (with appropriate mods) but as yet another >> app? >> >> Has there been any conversation on this that I missed? >> >> cheers, >> Sameer >> -- >> Sameer Verma, Ph.D. >> Professor, Information Systems >> San Francisco State University >> http://verma.sfsu.edu/ >> http://commons.sfsu.edu/ >> http://olpcsf.org/ >> http://olpcjamaica.org.jm/ >> >> _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education >> Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > -- Christoph Derndorfer volunteer, OLPC (Austria) [www.olpc.at] editor, OLPC News [www.olpcnews.com] contributor, TechnikBasteln [www.technikbasteln.net] e-mail: christ...@derndorfer.eu
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