On Mon, Jun 16, 2025 at 2:39 PM Jiří Denemark <jdene...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 16, 2025 at 02:14:15 +0200, Hector Cao wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 3:23 PM Jiří Denemark <jdene...@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> > > So except for not having the right CPU model in the capabilities XML
> > > (which is not a bug, but rather a known limitation), is there any other
> > > issue? I believe the host CPU would be correctly reported as
> > > SapphireRapids/GraniteRapids with both hle and rtm disabled in domain
> > > capabilities XML.
> > >
> > >
> > Yes, you are right, if rtm and hle features are available, Granite Rapids
> > will be correctly reported by virsh capabilities
> > if the MSR bug is fixed (please take a look at :
> >
> https://lists.libvirt.org/archives/list/devel@lists.libvirt.org/thread/XNOHU7PODTZVCX7ZQ2PBM7DRQRG2D6C7/
> > )
> >
> > You are also right that this is not a bug but rather a known limitation.
> > However, we are getting regular bug reports from users who are not aware
> of
> > this known limitation and
> > are confused. I would think if we can offer a better experience and save
> > time for everyone, It might be worth the
> > effort, especially GraniteRapids would be the last CPU model affected by
> > this issue.
>
> A better experience that would actually work would be allowing CPU
> features to be shown as disabled in host capabilities. But unfortunately
> we can't do that for compatibility reasons. The CPU description in host
> capabilities does not include the "policy" attribute and adding it could
> result in apps thinking disabled features are actually enabled (because
> they don't know they should read an extra attribute).
>
> > If you still believe that this little effort is not useful, I would think
>
> I do. It would only fix a few specific cases, but the same issue could
> happen with other (even existing) CPU models and different features too.
> It just depends on the exact host CPU and even BIOS settings.
>
> > that we can tackle this issue by offering better documentation about
> > this known limitation. What do you think ? We are thinking about
> > documenting it on Ubuntu but do you think that we can do something
> > more upstream ?
>
> Yes, this should be fixed by a documentation. It should definitely go
> upstream (and any relevant downstream documentation as well) unless it's
> already there or in case it's clear enough or not in the right place.
>
>
Do you have in mind any upstream documentation place where we can add this
kind of documentation ?

I see this page
https://wiki.libvirt.org/Libvirt_identifies_host_processor_as_a_different_model_from_the_hardware_documentation.html
I think it can be a good candidate.

What do you think ?

I would help document it if you think that is ok.

Hector.


> Jirka
>
>

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