On 10/26/2011 06:25 PM, Sébastien Bourdeauducq wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I can see a need for a very cheap Milkymist device. Right now, selling
> the Milkymist One is difficult to two groups of people:
> 1) open source enthusiasts and developers, who do not want to spend much
> money on a tech product (unless there is a Apple logo on it).
> 2) VJs. While the Milkymist One sure is competitive when taking into
> account the cost of the proprietary software they use at the moment,
> they have a strong culture of using this software - which they sometimes
> jump into using a pirated copy. The Apple logo also seems to help here.
> 
> I think we should keep promoting and improving the Milkymist One (more
> media exposure, development of RC4 hardware features such as DVI/HDMI
> compatibility, better software). But I also believe we should work on
> lowering one of the main barriers to entry into our project.
> 
> How about trying to make a $99 minimal version? Here is how I see it:
> 
> * Artix-7 XC7A30T FPGA - most probably cheaper than the one we have at
> the moment, and even a tad faster.
> * HDMI only video output. Direct (read "cheaper") connection to the FPGA
> without DAC and people keep asking for it (even though their projectors
> are generally VGA, go figure). So that would kill two birds with one stone.
> * SDRAM/Flash: to avoid development and maintainance headaches, let's
> try to stay compatible with what we have on the current board, unless
> big savings can be made. Software would be the same except the FPGA
> design which would only undergo minor modifications to target the
> Artix-7 instead of the Spartan-6.
> * Memory card. Updates are via files on the memory card.
> * Video-in based on the ADV7181C (like in M1 RC4). Only composite input
> accessible with an external connector.
> * Audio: the Artix-7 FPGAs now include ADCs, so we can get away with at
> most an op-amp on the board. Only internal microphone.

Are you sure you want to do this? I suspect getting good quality sound from
those would be rather hard. A proper sound chip is available for ~1USD though.
On the other hand HDMI can be used as digital audio in and out.

> * Two USB ports. If the transceivers are expensive, consider using
> resistors instead. (This hack worked for me, even though I'm pretty sure
> it's not USB compliant)

Best would be if the connectors would be OTG compatible.

> * Power supply: right now we use a foolproof design whose main goal was
> to reduce development time and probability of verification of the Murphy
> laws. It can certainly be made cheaper by using a power management IC
> (like TPS75003 or such).
> * That's all for the PCB! No Ethernet, DMX, etc. Hopefully we'll have
> MIDI over USB support.

No ethernet is in my opinion a killer.

- Lars

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