Anyway, to signal another job I have sent a RML message with the 
ORTE_DAEMON_SIGNAL_LOCAL_PROCS command to the proc's HNP.

Leonardo

On Mar 17, 2010, at 9:59 PM, Ralph Castain wrote:

> Sorry, I was out snowshoeing today - and about 3 miles out, I suddenly 
> realized the problem :-/
> 
> Terry is correct - we don't initialize the plm framework in application 
> processes. However, there is a default proxy module for that framework so 
> that applications can call comm_spawn. Unfortunately, I never filled in the 
> rest of the module function pointers because (a) there was no known reason 
> for apps to be using them (as Jeff points out), and (b) there is no MPI call 
> that interfaces to them.
> 
> I can (and will) make it work over the next day or two - there is no reason 
> why this can't be done. It just wasn't implemented due to lack of reason to 
> do so.
> 
> Sorry for the confusion - old man brain fizzing out again.
> 
> On Mar 17, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Leonardo Fialho wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I know the difference :)
>> 
>> I'm trying to call orte_plm.signal_job from a PML component. I think PLM 
>> stays resident after launching but it doesn't only for mpirun and orted, 
>> you're right.
>> 
>> On Mar 17, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Terry Dontje wrote:
>> 
>>> On 03/17/2010 10:10 AM, Leonardo Fialho wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Wow... orte_plm.signal_job points to zero. Is it correct from the PML 
>>>> point of view?
>>> It might be because plm's are really only used at launch time not in MPI 
>>> processes.  Note plm != pml.
>>> 
>>> --td
>>>> 
>>>> Leonardo
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 17, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Leonardo Fialho wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> To clarify a little bit more: I'm calling orte_plm.signal_job from a PML 
>>>>> component, I know that ORTE is bellow OMPI, but I think that this 
>>>>> function could not be available, or something like this. I can't figure 
>>>>> out where is this snprintf too, in my code there is only
>>>>> 
>>>>>     opal_output(0, "receiver: sending SIGUSR1 <%d> to RADIC Event Logger 
>>>>> <%s>",
>>>>>                 SIGUSR1, ORTE_NAME_PRINT(&el_proc));
>>>>>     orte_plm.signal_job(el_proc.jobid, SIGUSR1);
>>>>> 
>>>>> And the first output/printf works fine. Well... I used gdb to run the 
>>>>> program, I can see this:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Program received signal EXC_BAD_ACCESS, Could not access memory.
>>>>> Reason: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at address: 0x0000000000000000
>>>>> 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
>>>>> (gdb) backtrace
>>>>> #0  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
>>>>> #1  0x000000010065c319 in vprotocol_receiver_eventlog_connect 
>>>>> (el_comm=0x10065d178) at 
>>>>> ../../../../../../../../ompi/mca/pml/v/mca/vprotocol/receiver/vprotocol_receiver_eventlog.c:67
>>>>> #2  0x000000010065ba9a in mca_vprotocol_receiver_send (buf=0x100500000, 
>>>>> count=262144, datatype=0x100263d60, dst=1, tag=1, 
>>>>> sendmode=MCA_PML_BASE_SEND_STANDARD, comm=0x1002760c0) at 
>>>>> ../../../../../../../../ompi/mca/pml/v/mca/vprotocol/receiver/vprotocol_receiver_send.c:46
>>>>> #3  0x0000000100077d44 in MPI_Send ()
>>>>> #4  0x0000000100000a97 in main (argc=3, argv=0x7fff5fbff0c8) at ping.c:45
>>>>> 
>>>>> The line 67 of vprotocol_receiver_eventlog.c is the orte_plm_signal_job 
>>>>> call. After that zeros and interrogations... the signal_job function is 
>>>>> already available? I really don't understand what means all those zeros.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Leonardo
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 17, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Ralph Castain wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for clarifying - guess I won't chew just yet. :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I still don't see in your trace where it is failing in signal_job. I 
>>>>>> didn't see the message indicating it was sending the signal cmd out in 
>>>>>> your prior debug output, and there isn't a printf in that code loop 
>>>>>> other than the debug output. Can you attach to the process and get more 
>>>>>> info?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2010, at 6:50 AM, Leonardo Fialho wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ralph don't swallow your message yet... Both jobs are not running over 
>>>>>>> the same mpirun. There are two instances of mpirun in which one runs 
>>>>>>> with "-report-uri ../contact.txt" and the other receives its contact 
>>>>>>> info using "-ompi-server file:../contact.txt". And yes, both processes 
>>>>>>> are running with plm_base_verbose activated. When a deactivate the 
>>>>>>> plm_base_verbose the error is practically the same:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [aopclf:54106] receiver: sending SIGUSR1 <30> to RADIC Event Logger 
>>>>>>> <[[47640,1],0]>
>>>>>>> [aopclf:54106] *** Process received signal ***
>>>>>>> [aopclf:54106] Signal: Segmentation fault (11)
>>>>>>> [aopclf:54106] Signal code: Address not mapped (1)
>>>>>>> [aopclf:54106] Failing at address: 0x0
>>>>>>> [aopclf:54106] [ 0] 2   libSystem.B.dylib                   
>>>>>>> 0x00007fff83a6eeaa _sigtramp + 26
>>>>>>> [aopclf:54106] [ 1] 3   libSystem.B.dylib                   
>>>>>>> 0x00007fff83a210b7 snprintf + 496
>>>>>>> [aopclf:54106] [ 2] 4   mca_vprotocol_receiver.so           
>>>>>>> 0x000000010065ba0a mca_vprotocol_receiver_send + 177
>>>>>>> [aopclf:54106] [ 3] 5   libmpi.0.dylib                      
>>>>>>> 0x0000000100077d44 MPI_Send + 734
>>>>>>> [aopclf:54106] [ 4] 6   ping                                
>>>>>>> 0x0000000100000a97 main + 431
>>>>>>> [aopclf:54106] [ 5] 7   ping                                
>>>>>>> 0x00000001000008e0 start + 52
>>>>>>> [aopclf:54106] *** End of error message ***
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Leonardo
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2010, at 5:43 AM, Ralph Castain wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm going to have to eat my last message. It slipped past me that your 
>>>>>>>> other job was started via comm_spawn. Since both "jobs" are running 
>>>>>>>> under the same mpirun, there shouldn't be a problem sending a signal 
>>>>>>>> between them.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I don't know why this would be crashing. Are you sure it is  crashing 
>>>>>>>> in signal_job? Your trace indicates it is crashing in a print 
>>>>>>>> statement, yet there is no print statement in signal_job. Or did you 
>>>>>>>> run this with plm_base_verbose set so that the verbose prints are 
>>>>>>>> trying to run (could be we have a bug in one of them)?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Leonardo Fialho wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Well, thank you anyway :)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2010, at 1:54 AM, Ralph Castain wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, that probably won't work. The current code isn't intended to 
>>>>>>>>>> cross jobs like that - I'm sure nobody ever tested it for that idea, 
>>>>>>>>>> and I'm pretty sure it won't support it.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I don't currently know any way to do what you are trying to do. We 
>>>>>>>>>> could extend the signal code to handle it, I would think...but I'm 
>>>>>>>>>> not sure how soon that might happen.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Leonardo Fialho wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes... but something wrong is going on... maybe the problem is that 
>>>>>>>>>>> the jobid is different than the process' jobid, I don't know.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to send a signal to other process running under a 
>>>>>>>>>>> another job. The other process jump into an accept_connect to the 
>>>>>>>>>>> MPI comm. So i did a code like this (I removed verification code 
>>>>>>>>>>> and comments, this is just a summary for a happy execution):
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ompi_dpm.parse_port(port, &hnp_uri, &rml_uri, &el_tag);
>>>>>>>>>>> orte_rml_base_parse_uris(rml_uri, &el_proc, NULL);
>>>>>>>>>>> ompi_dpm.route_to_port(hnp_uri, &el_proc);
>>>>>>>>>>> orte_plm.signal_job(el_proc.jobid, SIGUSR1);
>>>>>>>>>>> ompi_dpm.connect_accept(MPI_COMM_SELF, 0, port, true, el_comm);
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> el_proc is defined as orte_process_name_t, not a pointer to this. 
>>>>>>>>>>> And signal.h has been included for SIGUSR1's sake. But when the 
>>>>>>>>>>> code enter in signal_job function it crashes. I'm trying to debug 
>>>>>>>>>>> it just now... the crash is the following:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> [Fialho-2.local:51377] receiver: looking for: radic_eventlog[0]
>>>>>>>>>>> [Fialho-2.local:51377] receiver: found port 
>>>>>>>>>>> <784793600.0;tcp://192.168.1.200:54071+784793601.0;tcp://192.168.1.200:54072:300>
>>>>>>>>>>> [Fialho-2.local:51377] receiver: HNP URI 
>>>>>>>>>>> <784793600.0;tcp://192.168.1.200:54071>, RML URI 
>>>>>>>>>>> <784793601.0;tcp://192.168.1.200:54072>, TAG <300>
>>>>>>>>>>> [Fialho-2.local:51377] receiver: sending SIGUSR1 <30> to RADIC 
>>>>>>>>>>> Event Logger <[[11975,1],0]>
>>>>>>>>>>> [Fialho-2:51377] *** Process received signal ***
>>>>>>>>>>> [Fialho-2:51377] Signal: Segmentation fault (11)
>>>>>>>>>>> [Fialho-2:51377] Signal code: Address not mapped (1)
>>>>>>>>>>> [Fialho-2:51377] Failing at address: 0x0
>>>>>>>>>>> [Fialho-2:51377] [ 0] 2   libSystem.B.dylib                   
>>>>>>>>>>> 0x00007fff83a6eeaa _sigtramp + 26
>>>>>>>>>>> [Fialho-2:51377] [ 1] 3   libSystem.B.dylib                   
>>>>>>>>>>> 0x00007fff83a210b7 snprintf + 496
>>>>>>>>>>> [Fialho-2:51377] [ 2] 4   mca_vprotocol_receiver.so           
>>>>>>>>>>> 0x000000010065ba0a mca_vprotocol_receiver_send + 177
>>>>>>>>>>> [Fialho-2:51377] [ 3] 5   libmpi.0.dylib                      
>>>>>>>>>>> 0x0000000100077d44 MPI_Send + 734
>>>>>>>>>>> [Fialho-2:51377] [ 4] 6   ping                                
>>>>>>>>>>> 0x0000000100000a97 main + 431
>>>>>>>>>>> [Fialho-2:51377] [ 5] 7   ping                                
>>>>>>>>>>> 0x00000001000008e0 start + 52
>>>>>>>>>>> [Fialho-2:51377] [ 6] 8   ???                                 
>>>>>>>>>>> 0x0000000000000003 0x0 + 3
>>>>>>>>>>> [Fialho-2:51377] *** End of error message ***
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> With exception to the signal_job the code works, I have tested it 
>>>>>>>>>>> forcing an accept on the other process, and avoiding the 
>>>>>>>>>>> signal_job. But I want to send the signal to wake-up the other side 
>>>>>>>>>>> and to be able to manage multiple connect/accept.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Leonardo
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2010, at 1:33 AM, Ralph Castain wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure! So long as you add the include, you are okay as the ORTE 
>>>>>>>>>>>> layer is "below" the OMPI one.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Leonardo Fialho wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Ralph, the last question... it orte_plm.signal_job 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> exposed/available to be called by a PML component? Yes, I have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the orte/mca/plm/plm.h include line.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leonardo
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2010, at 11:59 PM, Ralph Castain wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's just the orte_process_name_t jobid field. So if you have an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orte_process_name_t *pname, then it would just be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orte_plm.signal_job(pname->jobid, sig)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Leonardo Fialho wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hum.... and to signal a job probably the function is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orte_plm.signal_job(jobid, signal); right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now my dummy question is how to obtain the jobid part from an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orte_proc_name_t variable? Is there any magical function in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> names_fns.h?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leonardo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2010, at 10:12 PM, Ralph Castain wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Afraid not - you can signal a job, but not a specific process. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We used to have such an API, but nobody ever used it. Easy to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restore if someone has a need.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Leonardo Fialho wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any function in Open MPI's frameworks to send a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signal to other ORTE proc?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, the ORTE process [[1234,1],1] want to  send a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signal to process [[1234,1,4] locate in other node. I'm 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking for this kind of functions but I just found functions 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to send signal to all procs in a node.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leonardo
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