Ralph,

The "understanding" Gilles just expresses matches my own.

The issue that the OP observed on an ARM/Linux system (and I was able to
reproduce on Linux w/ any arch) is that when the LO interface is missing
Linux is unable to pass loopback messages sent on ANY interface.  The
oob_tcp code was trying to connect to a 172.18.0.x address when I
reproduced it.

In summary:

For LINUX the lack of a loopback interface (selected or not) prevents local
connection.
For NON-LINUX the lack of a loopback interface MAKES NO DIFFERENCE.

So, I think Gilles's version is correct, but that making the logic (at
least the reporting) conditional on Linux might be an improvement.

Since this is a warning, it might be better to remove from 1.8 until we
have more certainty about where/when it matters.  I don't think users will
appreciate a "cry wolf" release.

-Paul

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Gilles Gouaillardet <
gilles.gouaillar...@iferc.org> wrote:

>  Ralph,
>
> here is my understanding of what happens on Linux :
>
> lo: 127.0.0.1/8
> eth0: 192.168.122.101/24
>
> mpirun --mca orte_oob_tcp_if_include eth0 ...
>
> so the mpi task tries to contact orted/mpirun on 192.168.0.1/24
>
> that works just fine if the loopback interface is active,
> and that hangs if there is no loopback interface.
>
>
> imho that is a linux oddity, and OMPI has nothing to do with it
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gilles
>
> [root@slurm1 ~]# ping -c 3 192.168.122.101
> PING 192.168.122.101 (192.168.122.101) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from 192.168.122.101: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.013 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.122.101: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.009 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.122.101: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.011 ms
>
> --- 192.168.122.101 ping statistics ---
> 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 1999ms
> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.009/0.011/0.013/0.001 ms
>
>
>
> [root@slurm1 ~]# ifdown lo
> [root@slurm1 ~]# ping -c 3 192.168.122.101
> PING 192.168.122.101 (192.168.122.101) 56(84) bytes of data.
>
> --- 192.168.122.101 ping statistics ---
> 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 11999ms
>
>
>
> On 2014/12/12 13:54, Ralph Castain wrote:
>
> I honestly think it has to be a selected interface, Gilles, else we will fail 
> to connect.
>
>
>  On Dec 11, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Gilles Gouaillardet 
> <gilles.gouaillar...@iferc.org> <gilles.gouaillar...@iferc.org> wrote:
>
> Paul,
>
> about the five warnings :
> can you confirm you are running mpirun *not* on n15 nor n16 ?
> if my guess is correct, then you can get up to 5 warnings : mpirun + 2 orted 
> + 2 mpi tasks
>
> do you have any oob_tcp_if_include or oob_tcp_if_exclude settings in your 
> openmpi-mca-params.conf ?
>
> here is attached a patch to fix this issue.
> what we really want is test there is a loopback interface, period.
> the current code (my bad for not having reviewed in a timely manner) seems to 
> check
> there is a *selected* loopback interface.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gilles
>
> On 2014/12/12 13:15, Paul Hargrove wrote:
>
>  Ralph,
>
> Sorry to be the bearer of more bad news.
> The "good" news is I've seen the new warning regarding the lack of a
> loopback interface.
> The BAD news is that it is occurring on a Linux cluster that I'ver verified
> DOES have 'lo' configured on the front-end and compute nodes (UP and
> RUNNING according to ifconfig).
>
> Though run with "-np 2" the warning appears FIVE times.
> ADDITIONALLY, there is a SEGV at exit!
>
> Unfortunately, despite configuring with --enable-debug, I didn't get line
> numbers from the core (and there was no backtrace printed).
>
> All of this appears below (and no, "-mca mtl psm" is not a typo or a joke).
>
> Let me know what tracing flags to apply to gather the info needed to debug
> this.
>
> -Paul
>
>
> $ mpirun -mca btl sm,self -np 2 -host n15,n16 -mca mtl psm examples/ring_c
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> WARNING: No loopback interface was found. This can cause problems
> when we spawn processes as they are likely to be unable to connect
> back to their host daemon. Sadly, it may take awhile for the connect
> attempt to fail, so you may experience a significant hang time.
>
> You may wish to ctrl-c out of your job and activate loopback support
> on at least one interface before trying again.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [... above message FOUR more times ...]
> Process 1 exiting
> Process 0 sending 10 to 1, tag 201 (2 processes in ring)
> Process 0 sent to 1
> Process 0 decremented value: 9
> Process 0 decremented value: 8
> Process 0 decremented value: 7
> Process 0 decremented value: 6
> Process 0 decremented value: 5
> Process 0 decremented value: 4
> Process 0 decremented value: 3
> Process 0 decremented value: 2
> Process 0 decremented value: 1
> Process 0 decremented value: 0
> Process 0 exiting
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> mpirun noticed that process rank 0 with PID 0 on node n15 exited on signal
> 11 (Segmentation fault).
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> $ /sbin/ifconfig lo
> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>           RX packets:481228 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:481228 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>           RX bytes:81039065 (77.2 MiB)  TX bytes:81039065 (77.2 MiB)
>
> $ ssh n15 /sbin/ifconfig lo
> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>           RX packets:24885 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:24885 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>           RX bytes:1509940 (1.4 MiB)  TX bytes:1509940 (1.4 MiB)
>
> $ ssh n16 /sbin/ifconfig lo
> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>           RX packets:24938 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:24938 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>           RX bytes:1543408 (1.4 MiB)  TX bytes:1543408 (1.4 MiB)
>
> $ gdb examples/ring_c core.29728
> [...]
> (gdb) where
> #0  0x0000002a97a19980 in ?? ()
> #1  <signal handler called>
> #2  0x0000003a6d40607c in _Unwind_FindEnclosingFunction () from
> /lib64/libgcc_s.so.1
> #3  0x0000003a6d406b57 in _Unwind_RaiseException () from
> /lib64/libgcc_s.so.1
> #4  0x0000003a6d406c4c in _Unwind_ForcedUnwind () from /lib64/libgcc_s.so.1
> #5  0x0000003a6c30ac50 in __pthread_unwind () from
> /lib64/tls/libpthread.so.0
> #6  0x0000003a6c305202 in sigcancel_handler () from
> /lib64/tls/libpthread.so.0
> #7  <signal handler called>
> #8  0x0000003a6b6bd9a2 in poll () from /lib64/tls/libc.so.6
> #9  0x0000002a978f8f7d in ?? ()
> #10 0x002000010000000e in ?? ()
> #11 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
>
>
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