Jeff,

iirc, i saw build being cancelled (i was monitoring the Jenkins console) 
when new commits were pushed (or force pushed) to the current PR

i will make a test tomorrow

it is fair that using Travis for new PR is very likely more useful than 
for validating all builds

Cheers,

Gilles

----- Original Message -----
> On Feb 8, 2017, at 9:34 AM, gil...@rist.or.jp wrote:
> > 
> > i also noted that each time a PR is updated, a new Travis build is 
> > started.
> > on the other hand, Jenkins is a bit smarter and does not build or 
cancel 
> > "obsolete" PR.
> 
> Are you sure?
> 
> Here's how I thought Jenkins worked:
> 
> - create a PR: queue up a Jenkins job
> - push a change to a PR: queue up a Jenkins job
> 
> So let's say a scenario like this happens:
> 
> 1. jenkins is fully busy
> 2. jeff submits PR 1234, queues jenkins job 5678
> 3. jeff pushes another commit to PR 1234, queues jenkins job 5679
> 4. jeff pushes another commit to PR 1234, queues jenkins job 5680
> 5. jenkins becomes unbusy, runs job 5678
>    --> this does test the head of the PR branch -- not the PR as it 
was initially submitted
> 6. jenkins finishes 5678 and runs job 5679
>    --> this *also* tests the head of the PR branch -- i.e., exactly 
what was tested in 5678
> 7. jenkins finishes 5679 and runs job 5680
>    --> this *also* tests the head of the PR branch -- i.e., exactly 
what was tested in 5678 and 5679
> 
> I.e., my understanding was that Jenkins would do multiple redundant 
jobs and not be able to tell the difference between them (because of the 
lack of state kept between individual Jenkins jobs)
> 
> I know that that *used* to be the case.  Perhaps recently versions of 
Jenkins (or its plugins?) have made this better such that 5679 and 5680 
would turn into no-ops...?  Do you know if this is the case?
> 
> > i think most of us cannot manually direct Travis to cancel a given 
build.
> > 
> > fwiw, building pushes is not useless.
> > we recently hit a case in which the PR was successfully built, then 
some 
> > other changes were made but they did not cause any conflicts from a 
a 
> > git point of view, so the PR was merged.
> > unfortunatly, master could not build any more because there was a 
indeed 
> > a conflict that git had no way to detect.
> 
> I agree -- building pushes is not a bad thing for exactly the reason 
you cite.
> 
> But if Travis has limited resources, I'm wondering if it would be 
better to utilize them for PRs than the uncommon case of detecting 
problems-upon-merge.
> 
> -- 
> Jeff Squyres
> jsquy...@cisco.com
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