My comments are inline: On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:30 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:56:09 -0400 > From: Joshua Judson Rosen <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke? > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > mobi phil <[email protected]> writes: >> >> So... my question is ... is it a joke > [...] >> In this case I would really advice people to refrain in buying the >> openmoko, and better go for glofiish M800, that has a keyboard and >> radio as plus > > ... and that, it appears, also has a $300 higher MSRP. Almost twice as > much as the FreeRunner? A lot of people have expressed shock and > amazement that the FreeRunner could cost even $300; these are, > presumably, not the same people whom you would advise to `just buy the > glofiish for *$700*'. Or..., were *you* joking? This shouldn't be an excuse...Openmoko freerunner already has a powerful CPU, Qtopia runs decent (I wouldn't say *fast* enough thou) - it sure lacks a lot of features. > >> and kernel support is almost ready... > > `It's almost twice as expensive, but at least it's also harder to > develop for!'? :) ... > > Openmoko is here with a hand extended, saying `let's work together'; > what is Eten's position? > > If Eten is making a comparable offer to cooperate, then by all > means--do support them! :) > > If we cannot convince you to care about open hardware, and you `merely' > wish to contribute to development of Free/OpenSource Software systems, > then note that *that* contribution *is* also appreciated. Thank you! I don't agree that its easy to develop for openmoko - But, I agree, since its open source/hardware, its _easier_. I can't find proper resources (probably I don't know where to search!), neither do experts in devel lists respond adequately to "starter" questions. I can't find a decent "How to"/"Starter" wiki pages (w.r.t development). I had planned to get involved in the development (Since I thought there was *lots* to improve in openmoko), but I didn't get any help - even after repeated messages to openmoko lists. > If you are have no contribution to make at this time, then..., while > it may be difficult to say, Openmoko *may* simply not have much to > offer you yet, either--it's is a distinct possibility. As previously > noted, the project (or projects, depending on how you look at it) is > (are) still nascent in many respects, and it's entirely possible that > you are simply not the target-audience right now. I've had this happen > to me many times, with many things :) > > My SHR FreeRunner, by the way, does already work quite well as *my* > daily phone, PDA, mobile Wi-Fi access-point, GPS navigator, > music-player, web-tablet, IM client..., etc. And it works, for me, > *much* better than the Motorola RAZR that it replaced (and which sold > for..., what was it, $500?) :) > Perhaps you should tell us your configuration (software mix) and if possible post your out-of-the-box working image. I will be looking for an OS which is "stable" enough - and in which most features work. > On that note, perhaps I've read too far into your comments--maybe all > you're saying is, `I am upset that the FreeRunner apparently cannot be > all things to all people'? I don't know what to say, but there sure is a lot of scope for improvement - at least from the "software" point of view. I guess, I don't need *all* the things at all times, but I sure need a better call-pickup-dial speeds! Eg. Currently my phone starts ringing only after the caller has got 1 or 2 "rings"..After I press pickup, it rings for once more before actually "picking up". What is the phone doing during these "wait" times? > > I apologise for writing such a lengthy reply--I fear that I lack the > skill required to make it it shorter; and I hope that it isn't read as > being hostile. Quite the opposite: those questions are not > rhetorical--they are genuine inquiries. > > -- > Don't be afraid to ask (Lf.((Lx.xx) (Lr.f(rr)))). > Don't take this mail as a flame or an anti-openmoko mail. I am all for open-source/hardware. I still do use Freerunner (with Qtopia) as my daily phone (its the one and only phone that I have). Now that Qtopia is _out_, the (only) remaining promising OS(s) for openmoko are Android and OpenWrt. But there is a long long way to go, before accelerometers and GPS work decently. Of course some pressing issues like suspend/resume needs a lot of improvement. Go Neo! And please update the distros-wiki....they list feature wise "working"/"not-working" they don't in anyway reflect "to what extent". Probably one more column "usable"/"not usable" (for everyday usage)? The success of a platform lies in the easiness of application development, take Nokia's SDKs for example. Are there any comparable SDKs for openmoko? There are lots of effort put into Neo/Openmoko...But, I guess, they need to be more streamlined. > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > > > End of devel Digest, Vol 13, Issue 14 > ************************************* > _______________________________________________ devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
