Hal Murray <hmur...@megapathdsl.net>: > I have no strong opinion about red vs green vs blue.
I don't either. I guess in general I lean towards waiting a little longer and having a more impressive feature list. But I laid out scenarios for nearer-term releases because there might be PR or fundraising reasons to do that. > I think it would make more sense to have a high level description of what you > want for a release. If you had that, I think it would be easy to pick a > color. Hm. I guess what I want is for it to be production-ready for large datacenters - the AWS/Cisco/Rackspace league. This is in concordance with the deployment strategy Mark and I have talked about before. > There are probably other areas that are just as important. > Are you planning to fix all the issues? Yes. I cleared about a third of them yesterday. There are 20 left. None of those look intractable. Qualification: if the Pythonization of ntpq goes well enough and fast enough, we may be able to ignore two of them that are about the C ntpq. > Has the pool vs restrict problem been fixed? It has, and the fix has been verified. That happened yesterday. > Is the documentation in good shape? I think the major overhaul and update we gave it a year ago left it in *very* good shape, as far as completeness and correctness goes. I've kept it current with our few new features since. The worst problem I see remaining is that it's still something of a jungle, somewhat difficult for a newbie to stay oriented in. I haven't figured out how to address that. I don't think it needs more content, but could maybe use a reorganization. I think I may need to overhaul the HOWTO on writing a parse driver. That's the one identifiable piece that may still be out of date. > What is the status of your simple setup doc? Ready to ship. Your review and corrections were the last polishing step I thought it needed. > What do we have in the way of testing? That is the one area I'm not completely happy with. Good news: We're doing really systematic cross-platform build testing now and the breadth is only going to improve with the new buildbot jdb and gem are working on. Better news: Our defect rate has been really, really low. I've had ntpd instances running on RasPis for literally months at a time, with no crashes or unexplained anomalies *ever*. We've had zero crash bugs anywhere since we fixed that odd threads/rlimit interaction a while back; that was our first and last. The tracker bugs have all been pretty minor. My only worry is that I wish we had more cross-platform testing in production or quasi-production use going on. I'm not as concerned about this as I might be, because our defect rate has been so close to zero, but I'd like to push the estimate out a couple more decimal places. > (I think we were going to have a web page listing known good setups.) We do; I made it from your devel/STATUS file. It's not visible on the public website yet because the website-rendering bot is down for a rewrite. > There are probably more "minor" cleanups in the code. We keep finding them. Agreed. I think those will continue to happen naturally as we proceed. > I'd vote for getting rid of KERNEL_PLL. I agree. A good idea in itself, and I need to do it in order to figure out whether your proposal for keeping TESTFRAME alive is viable. Longer response to that coming soon. > How are you going to test MS-SNTP? > > The old code, called out to a MS server to sign the response. That tied up > the server. The people who needed it were running low volume so they were OK > with that. That's an issue I was not aware of, and makes me want to drop the feature. How important do you think it is? -- <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a> _______________________________________________ devel mailing list devel@ntpsec.org http://lists.ntpsec.org/mailman/listinfo/devel