Hi,

regarding the ulimit, I have to agree with Klaus - it's a good thing to have since crashes are unexpected - even on production.

about the used user_id and group_id, I thing by default should be none - let's not force and let the user to decide if he wants to use such options.

regards,
bogdan


Klaus Darilion wrote:

Considering this case:
openser was running fine for 2-3 months. Suddenly a crash, we can't fix it as I do not have a core dump. Thus, we have to wait again 2-3 months for another crash and the same bug will maybe cause outages at other sites too.

regards
klaus

Dan Pascu wrote:

On Monday 30 January 2006 15:14, Klaus Darilion wrote:

Bogdan-Andrei Iancu wrote:

Klaus Darilion wrote:

Bogdan-Andrei Iancu wrote:

Hi,

also be sure to have the permission to generate core. Do "ulimit -c
unlimited".


Why not having "ulimit -c unlimited" and PARAMS="-P $PIDFILE -u openser
-g openser -w /tmp" in the default startup script? We would get lots
more cordump to analyze.



I think the startup script should come in a form that is suitable for using the proxy on a production platform, not for debugging. I personally do not want to edit the startup script everytime I install the proxy to remove options from it because they are meant for debugging which I don't need, except on rare occasions when I can manually add them for the moment until I fix the problem.

A better idea would be to include some configuration file from the startup script and in that configuration file we can have various options defined. something like:

DEFAULTS=/etc/defaults/openser
if [ -f $DEFAULTS ]; then
 . $DEFAULTS
fi

then we can have conditionals:

PARAMS="-P $PIDFILE -m $MEMORY -u $USER -g $GROUP"

if [ $DEBUG = "yes" ]; then
   ulimit -c unlimited
   PARAMS = "$PARAMS -w /tmp"
fi

This approach would also help to avoid the need to edit the startup script to change things like amount of memory, user/group to run as, ...
Instead one would only have to edit the defaults file

P.S.
For a core file to be truly useful, the program should be compiled with -O0 (i.e. no optimizations). Else precious information may not be available to the debugger, so someone willing to get backtraces from openser crashes has to do a bit more than just set the core limit size and the directory where to write them.




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