On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 04:53:43AM -0400, Fabian Deutsch wrote:
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 08:58:28AM -0400, Fabian Deutsch wrote:
> > > Hey,
> > > 
> > > the logic which is run on vdsm upgrades is located in the specfile, and
> > > thus run
> > > when the rpm get's an update.
> > > This is fine as long as rpm is involved (like when rpm or yum or dnf is
> > > used), but it
> > > becomes - and already is - an issue for flows where the upgrade happens
> > > without
> > > rpm, like on oVirt Node.
> > > 
> > > On oVirt Node the image for booting the host is getting replaced, we
> > > currently mimic
> > > the upgrade process of the specfile. But this error prone - we had a lot 
> > > of
> > > bugs around
> > > this area (remember the problems with the hooks?), and we need to watch 
> > > out
> > > for changes
> > > in the upgrade logic.
> > > 
> > > To simplify and especially unify the logic between Node and normal hosts,
> > > I'd like to
> > > discuss if the upgrade logic can be moved to a separate service or 
> > > included
> > > in one of the
> > > existsing services.
> > > 
> > > The simplest approach to me would be top create a new service which is
> > > started before
> > > libvirtd and vdsmd/supervdsmd to run some logic if an upgrade of vdsm is
> > > detected.
> > > This habit - to do the upgrade logic during boot - is actually not new and
> > > systemd
> > > provides some helpers (ConditionNeedsUpdate=) around this to ease the
> > > implementation.
> > > 
> > > Thoughts?
> > 
> > The problem is real: we have too much logic on %post and %postun
> > scripts, and end up with upgrade bugs litterally on every release.
> > 
> > However, for non-node installation we still need to allow configuration
> > after upgrade, but before next boot.
> 
> Can you tell what kind of configuration needs to be done after upgrade,
> before the next reboot?

All of them. When adding a new non-node host, we no longer require a
reboot before the host is deemed operational.

    yum install vdsm ; vdsm-tool configure; service vdsmd start

should do everything. I'm saying  that we should take logic out of rpm and
into `vdsm-tool configure`

> 
> > This means that everything in %post
> > should be converted into vdsm-tool "configurators".
> > https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/39823/3/vdsm.spec.in is one small step in
> > that direction.
> 
> I agree, that change is exactly what I'm looking for.
> 
> > When Vdsm starts up, it performs several "upgrade" modules, which
> > are used to upgrade vdsm-specific configurations. These too should
> > operate properly also when run much after boot.
> > 
> > Hence, I'm not sure about the benefit of adding an early systemd
> > service, but I may be missing something.
> 
> I was only thinking about the separate service, to make sure that
> any service who's configuration file get's possibly updated (i.e.
> libvirtd) has not yet been started.
> 
> But if vdsmd and the configurators take care to restart the service
> who's configuration file got changed, then we do not need a separate
> one.

It's somewhat ugly, but that's what

  vdsm-tool --nodule libvirt configure

already does.
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