On 03/07/2016 10:59 AM, Yedidyah Bar David wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Juan Hernández <jhern...@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On 03/07/2016 10:37 AM, Rafael Martins wrote:
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Juan Hernández" <jhern...@redhat.com>
>>>> To: "Sandro Bonazzola" <sbona...@redhat.com>, "Yedidyah Bar David" 
>>>> <d...@redhat.com>
>>>> Cc: "devel" <devel@ovirt.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 10:21:25 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] master ovirt-engine requires 
>>>> ovirt-engine-sdk-python >= 4.0.0.0
>>>>
>>>> On 03/07/2016 09:19 AM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Yedidyah Bar David <d...@redhat.com
>>>>> <mailto:d...@redhat.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>     I am trying, on a rhel7 vm:
>>>>>
>>>>>     yum install -y
>>>>>     http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/yum-repo/ovirt-release-master.rpm
>>>>>
>>>>>     yum install ovirt-engine
>>>>>
>>>>>     Fails with:
>>>>>
>>>>>     --> Finished Dependency Resolution
>>>>>     Error: Package:
>>>>>     
>>>>> ovirt-iso-uploader-4.0.0-0.0.master.20160208072812.gita433ce3.el7.centos.noarch
>>>>>     (ovirt-master-snapshot)
>>>>>                Requires: ovirt-engine-sdk-python >= 4.0.0.0
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Starting Friday night, jenkins suffered major issues resulting in
>>>>> publisher not working at all.
>>>>> I re-triggered the publishers this morning but looks that
>>>>>
>>>>> ovirt-engine-sdk-python >= 0:4.0.0.0 can't be satisfied by
>>>>> python-ovirt-engine-sdk4-4.0.0-0.0.20160303gita6aee01.el7.centos.x86_64.rpm
>>>>> due to name change.
>>>>>
>>>>> We need to fix the spec files requiring the new package.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fixing the spec files isn't enough, as the new
>>>> "python-ovirt-engine-sdk4" package isn't backwards compatible with the
>>>> previous "ovirt-engine-sdk-python" package.
>>>>
>>>> You have three alternatives:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Work with version 3.6 of the SDK. At the moment this is what I 
>>>> recommend.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Work with the new "python-ovirt-engine-sdk4" package. This is what we
>>>> should eventually do, but it requires important changes to the code. If
>>>> you want to go this way, please let me know and I'll help you do the
>>>> migration.
> 
> Is it considered stable already?
> 

It can't be considered stable. It is in alpha status at the moment.

> Among the repos I checked, I found:
> 
> ovirt-engine-cli/ovirt-engine-cli.spec.in:Requires:
> ovirt-engine-sdk-python >= 3.6.0.0
> ovirt-hosted-engine-setup/ovirt-hosted-engine-setup.spec.in:Requires:
>      ovirt-engine-sdk-python >= 4.0.0.0
> ovirt-image-uploader/ovirt-image-uploader.spec.in:Requires:
> ovirt-engine-sdk-python >= 4.0.0.0
> ovirt-iso-uploader/ovirt-iso-uploader.spec.in:Requires:
> ovirt-engine-sdk-python >= 4.0.0.0
> ovirt-log-collector/ovirt-log-collector.spec.in:Requires:
> ovirt-engine-sdk-python3 >= 4.0.0.0
> ovirt-log-collector/ovirt-log-collector.spec.in:Requires:
> ovirt-engine-sdk-python >= 4.0.0.0
> 
> I guess -cli, the uploaders, and -collector can be considered
> "not-urgent" and can simply wait until we fix them.
> 
> Main issue is that currently the engine requires the uploaders. We
> recently re-removed log-collector req upstream, perhaps we can do that
> with the uploaders too. Personally I do not think they are that
> important, especially since 4.0 should have a web ui uploader at some
> point.
> 
> hosted-engine-setup might be a bit more urgent, not sure.
> 
> All of them, I guess, use very little functionality of the engine/sdk
> and can probably be ported to the new sdk quite easily, if it's
> considered stable.
> 
> Not sure how to use 3.6 sdk - we can patch all of them to require >=
> 3.6 and add it to the -snapshot-static repo, and/or tell people to add
> the 3.6 repos when they want master (not healthy imo, because we do
> want to know if someone has to use something from 3.6 for master
> work).
> 
> Comments? Adding also Sandro.
> 

Version 4 of the engine will support versions 3 and 4 of the API, so our
repositories should include version 3.6 of the SDKs (and the CLI) and
also version 4 of the SDKs (there is no version 4 of the CLI). They have
different RPM package names to avoid conflicts.

>>>>
>>>> 3. Work with some of the "ovirt-engine-sdk-python-4.0.0" RPM files that
>>>> were produced in the transition from the old SDK to the new one. I don't
>>>> recommend this.
>>>
>>> Hi Juan,
>>>
>>> do you have a summary of API changes in the version 4 of the SDK, compared 
>>> with version 3? I tried find it in git, but it seems that you deleted all 
>>> the code of version 3 in one commit, and added all the code of version 4 in 
>>> other, making it hard to try to see the changes.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Rafael
>>>
>>
>> The new SDK is completely different from the old one, that is why I
>> deleted everything and added the new one. A diff won't help you find the
>> differences.
>>
>> The main difference is that in the new SDK types and services are
>> separate things. In the previous version of the SDK methods like "start"
>> used to be part of the "VM" class. This doesn't reflect the actual
>> design of the API, as you may get a VM from places where "start" doesn't
>> make sense, for example, a VM to be imported from an export storage
>> domain. This caused many issues in the previous SDK. In the new SDK
>> types are just containers for data. Operations, like "start" are part of
>> services.
>>
>> I suggest you look at the examples:
>>
>>   https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-engine-sdk/tree/master/sdk/examples
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                Available:
>>>>>     ovirt-engine-sdk-python-3.6.0.3-1.el7.centos.noarch (centos-ovirt36)
>>>>>                    ovirt-engine-sdk-python = 3.6.0.3-1.el7.centos
>>>>>                Available: ovirt-engine-sdk-python-3.6.2.1-1.el7.noarch
>>>>>     (centos-ovirt36)
>>>>>                    ovirt-engine-sdk-python = 3.6.2.1-1.el7
>>>>>                Installing: ovirt-engine-sdk-python-3.6.3.0-1.el7.noarch
>>>>>     (centos-ovirt36)
>>>>>                    ovirt-engine-sdk-python = 3.6.3.0-1.el7
>>>>>     Error: Package:
>>>>>     
>>>>> ovirt-image-uploader-4.0.0-0.0.master.20160211135948.git43cc942.el7.centos.noarch
>>>>>     (ovirt-master-snapshot)
>>>>>                Requires: ovirt-engine-sdk-python >= 4.0.0.0
>>>>>                Available:
>>>>>     ovirt-engine-sdk-python-3.6.0.3-1.el7.centos.noarch (centos-ovirt36)
>>>>>                    ovirt-engine-sdk-python = 3.6.0.3-1.el7.centos
>>>>>                Available: ovirt-engine-sdk-python-3.6.2.1-1.el7.noarch
>>>>>     (centos-ovirt36)
>>>>>                    ovirt-engine-sdk-python = 3.6.2.1-1.el7
>>>>>                Installing: ovirt-engine-sdk-python-3.6.3.0-1.el7.noarch
>>>>>     (centos-ovirt36)
>>>>>                    ovirt-engine-sdk-python = 3.6.3.0-1.el7
>>>>>
>>>>>     Tried also:
>>>>>
>>>>>     yum install
>>>>>     
>>>>> http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/ovirt-engine-sdk_master_build-artifacts-el7-x86_64/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/exported-artifacts/python-ovirt-engine-sdk4-4.0.0-0.0.20160303gita6aee01.el7.centos.x86_64.rpm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     which works, but does not satisfy the above dep. Should it? Any other
>>>>>     place to find 4.0 python sdk?
>>>>>
>>>>>     Thanks,
>>>>>     --
>>>>>     Didi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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