We recently added a host to the upgrade suite [1], so I guess it shouldn't
be hard to include upgrading the host there as well?

[1] https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/80687/

On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Martin Perina <mper...@redhat.com> wrote:

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> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Eyal Edri <ee...@redhat.com> wrote:
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>>
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>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Martin Perina <mper...@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Martin Sivak <msi...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The engine only updates a short list of packages during host deploy If
>>>> I remember correctly.
>>>>
>>>> See: https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/59897/
>>>>
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>
>>> ​No longer true in 4.2: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/sh
>>> ow_bug.cgi?id=1380498
>>>
>>
>> Does it also apply for new host installtions or just upgrades?
>>
>
> ​No, only upgrades using Host Upgrade Manager in webadmin or RESTAPI
> ​
>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> ​
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Sandro Bonazzola <sbona...@redhat.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-12-18 13:57 GMT+01:00 Eyal Edri <ee...@redhat.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Sandro Bonazzola <
>>>>>> sbona...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2017-12-18 12:42 GMT+01:00 Yaniv Kaul <yk...@redhat.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Sandro Bonazzola <
>>>>>>>> sbona...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi, I'd like to discuss what's being tested by oVirt System Test.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm investigating on a sanlock issue that affects hosted engine hc
>>>>>>>>> suite.
>>>>>>>>> I installed a CentOS minimal VM and set repositories as in
>>>>>>>>> http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/ovirt-system-tests_hc-basic-
>>>>>>>>> suite-master/128/artifact/exported-artifacts/reposync-config.repo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Upgrade from CentOS 1708 (7.4) minimal is:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Aggiornamento:
>>>>>>>>>  bind-libs-lite                                           x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                                 32:9.9.4-51.el7_4.1
>>>>>>>>>             centos-updates-el7                                  733 k
>>>>>>>>>  bind-license                                             noarch
>>>>>>>>>                                 32:9.9.4-51.el7_4.1
>>>>>>>>>             centos-updates-el7                                   84 k
>>>>>>>>>  nss                                                      x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                                 3.28.4-15.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>             centos-updates-el7                                  849 k
>>>>>>>>>  nss-softokn                                              x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                                 3.28.3-8.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>            centos-updates-el7                                  310 k
>>>>>>>>>  nss-softokn-freebl                                       x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                                 3.28.3-8.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>            centos-updates-el7                                  214 k
>>>>>>>>>  nss-sysinit                                              x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                                 3.28.4-15.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>             centos-updates-el7                                   60 k
>>>>>>>>>  nss-tools                                                x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                                 3.28.4-15.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>             centos-updates-el7                                  501 k
>>>>>>>>>  selinux-policy                                           noarch
>>>>>>>>>                                 3.13.1-166.el7_4.7
>>>>>>>>>            centos-updates-el7                                  437 k
>>>>>>>>>  selinux-policy-targeted                                  noarch
>>>>>>>>>                                 3.13.1-166.el7_4.7
>>>>>>>>>            centos-updates-el7                                  6.5 M
>>>>>>>>>  systemd                                                  x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                                 219-42.el7_4.4
>>>>>>>>>            centos-updates-el7                                  5.2 M
>>>>>>>>>  systemd-libs                                             x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                                 219-42.el7_4.4
>>>>>>>>>            centos-updates-el7                                  376 k
>>>>>>>>>  systemd-sysv                                             x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                                 219-42.el7_4.4
>>>>>>>>>            centos-updates-el7                                   70 k
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Enabling the CentOS repos:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  grub2                                                   x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              1:2.02-0.65.el7.centos.2
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                             29 k
>>>>>>>>>      in sostituzione di grub2.x86_64 1:2.02-0.64.el7.centos
>>>>>>>>>  grub2-tools                                             x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              1:2.02-0.65.el7.centos.2
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                            1.8 M
>>>>>>>>>      in sostituzione di grub2-tools.x86_64 1:2.02-0.64.el7.centos
>>>>>>>>>  grub2-tools-extra                                       x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              1:2.02-0.65.el7.centos.2
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                            993 k
>>>>>>>>>      in sostituzione di grub2-tools.x86_64 1:2.02-0.64.el7.centos
>>>>>>>>>  grub2-tools-minimal                                     x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              1:2.02-0.65.el7.centos.2
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                            170 k
>>>>>>>>>      in sostituzione di grub2-tools.x86_64 1:2.02-0.64.el7.centos
>>>>>>>>>  kernel                                                  x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              3.10.0-693.11.1.el7
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                             43 M
>>>>>>>>> Aggiornamento:
>>>>>>>>>  NetworkManager                                          x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              1:1.8.0-11.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                            1.6 M
>>>>>>>>>  NetworkManager-libnm                                    x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              1:1.8.0-11.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                            1.2 M
>>>>>>>>>  NetworkManager-team                                     x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              1:1.8.0-11.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                            156 k
>>>>>>>>>  NetworkManager-tui                                      x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              1:1.8.0-11.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                            224 k
>>>>>>>>>  NetworkManager-wifi                                     x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              1:1.8.0-11.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                            184 k
>>>>>>>>>  bash                                                    x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              4.2.46-29.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                            1.0 M
>>>>>>>>>  bind-libs-lite                                          x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              32:9.9.4-51.el7_4.1
>>>>>>>>>            centos-updates-el7                                 733 k
>>>>>>>>>  bind-license                                            noarch
>>>>>>>>>                              32:9.9.4-51.el7_4.1
>>>>>>>>>            centos-updates-el7                                  84 k
>>>>>>>>>  binutils                                                x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              2.25.1-32.base.el7_4.1
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                            5.4 M
>>>>>>>>>  cpio                                                    x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              2.11-25.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                            210 k
>>>>>>>>>  cryptsetup-libs                                         x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              1.7.4-3.el7_4.1
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                            223 k
>>>>>>>>>  curl                                                    x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              7.29.0-42.el7_4.1
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                            267 k
>>>>>>>>>  glibc                                                   x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              2.17-196.el7_4.2
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                            3.6 M
>>>>>>>>>  glibc-common                                            x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              2.17-196.el7_4.2
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                             11 M
>>>>>>>>>  grub2-common                                            noarch
>>>>>>>>>                              1:2.02-0.65.el7.centos.2
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                            726 k
>>>>>>>>>  grub2-pc                                                x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              1:2.02-0.65.el7.centos.2
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                             29 k
>>>>>>>>>  grub2-pc-modules                                        noarch
>>>>>>>>>                              1:2.02-0.65.el7.centos.2
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                            845 k
>>>>>>>>>  iptables                                                x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              1.4.21-18.2.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                            428 k
>>>>>>>>>  kernel-tools                                            x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              3.10.0-693.11.1.el7
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                            5.1 M
>>>>>>>>>  kernel-tools-libs                                       x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              3.10.0-693.11.1.el7
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                            5.0 M
>>>>>>>>>  kexec-tools                                             x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              2.0.14-17.2.el7
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                            333 k
>>>>>>>>>  kmod                                                    x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              20-15.el7_4.6
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                            120 k
>>>>>>>>>  kmod-libs                                               x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              20-15.el7_4.6
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                             50 k
>>>>>>>>>  libblkid                                                x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              2.23.2-43.el7_4.2
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                            176 k
>>>>>>>>>  libcurl                                                 x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              7.29.0-42.el7_4.1
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                            219 k
>>>>>>>>>  libgcc                                                  x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              4.8.5-16.el7_4.1
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                             98 k
>>>>>>>>>  libgomp                                                 x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              4.8.5-16.el7_4.1
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                            154 k
>>>>>>>>>  libmount                                                x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              2.23.2-43.el7_4.2
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                            178 k
>>>>>>>>>  libpciaccess                                            x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              0.13.4-3.1.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                             26 k
>>>>>>>>>  libstdc++                                               x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              4.8.5-16.el7_4.1
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                            301 k
>>>>>>>>>  libuuid                                                 x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              2.23.2-43.el7_4.2
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                             79 k
>>>>>>>>>  ncurses                                                 x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              5.9-14.20130511.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                            304 k
>>>>>>>>>  ncurses-base                                            noarch
>>>>>>>>>                              5.9-14.20130511.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                             68 k
>>>>>>>>>  ncurses-libs                                            x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              5.9-14.20130511.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                            316 k
>>>>>>>>>  nss                                                     x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              3.28.4-15.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>            centos-updates-el7                                 849 k
>>>>>>>>>  nss-softokn                                             x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              3.28.3-8.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>             centos-updates-el7                                 310 k
>>>>>>>>>  nss-softokn-freebl                                      x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              3.28.3-8.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>             centos-updates-el7                                 214 k
>>>>>>>>>  nss-sysinit                                             x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              3.28.4-15.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>            centos-updates-el7                                  60 k
>>>>>>>>>  nss-tools                                               x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              3.28.4-15.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>            centos-updates-el7                                 501 k
>>>>>>>>>  openssh                                                 x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              7.4p1-13.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                            509 k
>>>>>>>>>  openssh-clients                                         x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              7.4p1-13.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                            654 k
>>>>>>>>>  openssh-server                                          x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              7.4p1-13.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                            458 k
>>>>>>>>>  python-gobject-base                                     x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              3.22.0-1.el7_4.1
>>>>>>>>>             updates                                            294 k
>>>>>>>>>  python-perf                                             x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              3.10.0-693.11.1.el7
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                            5.1 M
>>>>>>>>>  selinux-policy                                          noarch
>>>>>>>>>                              3.13.1-166.el7_4.7
>>>>>>>>>             centos-updates-el7                                 437 k
>>>>>>>>>  selinux-policy-targeted                                 noarch
>>>>>>>>>                              3.13.1-166.el7_4.7
>>>>>>>>>             centos-updates-el7                                 6.5 M
>>>>>>>>>  sudo                                                    x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              1.8.19p2-11.el7_4
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                            1.1 M
>>>>>>>>>  systemd                                                 x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              219-42.el7_4.4
>>>>>>>>>             centos-updates-el7                                 5.2 M
>>>>>>>>>  systemd-libs                                            x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              219-42.el7_4.4
>>>>>>>>>             centos-updates-el7                                 376 k
>>>>>>>>>  systemd-sysv                                            x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              219-42.el7_4.4
>>>>>>>>>             centos-updates-el7                                  70 k
>>>>>>>>>  tzdata                                                  noarch
>>>>>>>>>                              2017c-1.el7
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                            468 k
>>>>>>>>>  util-linux                                              x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              2.23.2-43.el7_4.2
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                            2.0 M
>>>>>>>>>  wpa_supplicant                                          x86_64
>>>>>>>>>                              1:2.6-5.el7_4.1
>>>>>>>>>            updates                                            1.2 M
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> meaning this environement is not receiving updates to core
>>>>>>>>> packages like the kernel.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Restricting to libvirt, with the repos used in the job libvirt
>>>>>>>>> packages doesn't even exists, making yum install libvirt just fail.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think you already know I'm against filtering packages from the
>>>>>>>>> repos even if I understand it saves a huge amount of space and 
>>>>>>>>> download
>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>> I may be wrong, but I tend to not trust OST results since it's not
>>>>>>>>> testing real life environments. Any chance we can improve OST to 
>>>>>>>>> match what
>>>>>>>>> users are going to have on their systems?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Specifically for the hosted-engine use case, I had the same
>>>>>>>> suspicion, so I patched Lago to use '--network' in virt-sysprep and 
>>>>>>>> added
>>>>>>>> 'update' command to ensure all hosts are fully up-to-date when 
>>>>>>>> deployed.
>>>>>>>> It did not solve the issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Generally:
>>>>>>>> 1. Updating the images take quite some time, per run.
>>>>>>>> 2. I agree every X months we should be updating the images. Every Q
>>>>>>>> for example. I've already discussed this with Gal. If CentOS would have
>>>>>>>> released a new baseline, that would have been more real life scenario, 
>>>>>>>> btw.
>>>>>>>> 3. That being said, if you need a dependency, you need to depend on
>>>>>>>> it, and we'll pull it. We do not ask (I think?) to 'yum update' your 
>>>>>>>> system
>>>>>>>> before deploying oVirt.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually yes, we require it. See https://ovirt.org/document
>>>>>>> ation/install-guide/chap-Installing_oVirt/
>>>>>>> It explicitly says to yum update before proceeding with the
>>>>>>> deployment and reboot the machine if kernel has been updated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn't that just for engine side? do we have the same requirement for
>>>>>> hypervisors as well?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not 100% sure but ovirt-engine in 4.2 should be performing yum update
>>>>> on host upgrade and this obviously don't pull in new packages if they are
>>>>> filtered out at repository level.
>>>>> Adding Martin to keep me honest on this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 4. There were, luckily, very few o-s-t only issues thus far. It may
>>>>>>>> happen, and we will run into those, but we have not so far encountered
>>>>>>>> many. Some we did not bother pursue, though are clear bugs (I remember 
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> annoying one with 'mount' command not getting back at all, etc.)
>>>>>>>> Y.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> SANDRO BONAZZOLA
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ASSOCIATE MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA ENG VIRTUALIZATION
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eyal edri
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MANAGER
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RHV DevOps
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> SANDRO BONAZZOLA
>>>>>
>>>>> ASSOCIATE MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA ENG VIRTUALIZATION R&D
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>>> Red Hat Czech s.r.o.
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>> Eyal edri
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> Red Hat Czech s.r.o.
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